To think it’s utterly disgraceful that Corbyn hasn’t resigned

[Bearbehind]

The man is the reason the Labour Party didn’t stand a chance in the GE

Yet today he doesn’t even have the good grace or integrity to step aside

Is their anyone at all who supports him in that decision?

Yeah Liverpool has form.

I'm with Alan Johnson - I want the momentum cult gone. I want a non-batshit, electable Labour Party

^^ This.

Tony Blair was elected in a completely different technological era. There are literally buildings full of people running fake internet accounts in Eastern Europe and Russia. Are you naive enough to think it's not beautifully convenient for Britain to be conned into dying by its own hand? Look at Trump. You really think he was voted in purely on the strength of being such a swell guy?

We had a kind and decent man against Boris Johnson for goodness sake. And we're expected to believe people voted based on personality? Nonsense.

He’s an incredibly selfish guy - what did you expect?

There’s something really quite grotesque about seeing so many Labour Party members and supporters expressing a view that working class people are too racist, ignorant, or somehow not decent enough to vote for them. There is no self-awareness whatsoever.

Definitely. It really feels like for some time, the Labour Party (both New Labour and Momentum to be honest) are nothing to do with the traditional Labour base.

This would explain why there is no loyalty to the core Labour vote, no care for what happens to them, nothing but scorn and contempt for what concerns them. I don't think we can pin that solely on Momentum, but they have done nothing to change it and frankly seem incapable of understanding, let alone fixing the problem. The great Labour politicians of the past would be turning in their graves to see it

I would like to see a Labour Party again. Even a Kinnock one. At least it would actually be Labour, and have something better in mind for the British working class than a life dependent on benefits and drugs, being farmed for votes.

@Maomentum_

1979 Labour 269 seats, Jim Callaghan resigns

1992 Labour 271 seats, Neil Kinnock resigns

2010 Labour 258 seats, Gordon Brown resigns

2015 Labour 232 seats, Ed Miliband resigns

2019 Labour 203 seats, LET'S NOT BE HASTY

John McDonnell has resigned.

John McDonnell has resigned in exactly the same way Corbyn has. I.e. he hasn’t.

He’ll go when Corbyn does.

Not RTFT however I hope Corbyn stays. While he is in power, Labour remain unelectable.

Yeah once I read the article properly I can see that now. What is wrong with them?

I don't think they'll go until suitable momentum-approved replacements are found. The priority must be binning momentum but I'm not sure what the rules are when dealing with an entryist party-within-a-party.

So John McDonnell is stepping down when comrade Jermey does and names Rebecca Long-Bailey, Angela Rayner and Richard Burgon as Labour’s new generation

Ffs haven’t they learnt anything the electorate rejected Labour as they are now we don’t want a left leaning Labour Party and certainly not those who supported Corbyn blindly

They are not going quietly and shall continue damaging Labour

And no doubt many party members will continue stupidly supporting them

If the membership does elect someone who seeks to keep Corbynism alive then the moderate PLP must break away and form a different grouping. They’ve sat on their hands for too long and bear some of the responsibility for the current catastrophe.

Is he staying because he wants to groom his successor in Corbynism? He won't go until he approves of his apprentice.

TheBlueStocking

This from The Observer shows how disliked Corbyn is.
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/14/i-saw-just-how-many-voters-were-hostile-to-jeremy-corbyn

TheObserver’s pollsters Opinium have revealed their own analysis of the reasons people rejected Labour: 43% cited the leadership, 17% its policy on Brexit, and 12% its economic policies. Among Labour defectors – those who voted Labour in 2017 but didn’t this time – 37% mentioned the leadership, 21% Brexit and 6% its economic policies

Despite the overwhelming evidence, team Corbyn denies completely that it was the leader who repelled voters. Corbyn, when acknowledging Labour’s defeat in the early hours of Friday,refused to accept any personal responsibilityfor his second general election loss

Lmao this thread is like a Tory meme wankfest

Hey @ArseDarkly remeber when @Bearbehind was going to vote LibDem once a Tory always a Tory

That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of first-class people to semi-starvation. Now the Tories are pouring out money in propaganda of all sorts and are hoping by this organised sustained mass suggestion to eradicate from our minds all memory of what we went through. But, I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying now. - Nye Bevan

*Highlighting added

JustAnotherPoster00

Enjoying the Tory landslide? What a shame Corbynism turned out to be for the few, not the many!

Loving it actually Cendrillion thanks for asking, just shows me that how I feel about Tories are right and justified and every homeless person who dies on our streets, all the ill and disabled who die because of austerity, all the old who die because of cuts to social care and the NHS, their blood is on the hands of everyone who put their X in that Tory box, so away with you little rat

Hey Just! you're still alive after the zombie apocolypse - mwah!

Yeah, apparently WM are to blame for it all because we were mean to a poor poster and that drove it to vote Tory but they will Bear no responsibility. Apparently, if we had just listened to the poster and got rid of Corbyn it would have been alright but we just refused to do it so, there you go.

The fat gloaty humbug is still buzzing, feeding off it's own shit. Make the most of it bug because this honeymoon phase is going to be very short.

You've got your weird insults, Just, but we've got ...

FIVE MORE YEARS!

I did post on WM Arse but I dont think my input is needed there anymore and watching the usual 'momentum' tropes rolled out meant I was going to get irksome and I know cat and 3dogs dont like it when im 'robust'

What Tories find hard to comprehend that for a lot of us, even some of us in scary noise momentum that it wasnt Corbyn, its the message of bringing the lowest up to a level of existence that could be considered a life that we believe in, so Corbyn goes, personally I dont give a fuck I just hope the next leader wants to protect the most vulnerable, but I can sleep fine at this election I voted for what was right (feel free vermin to tell me what isnt right about ending homelessness and foodbanks and people dying because they couldnt keep their medication cold) and we lost I get that, so what, I still believe that the poor, vulnerable, old and disabled would be taken care off, and every person who dies because of the afore mentioned criteria I will blame every verminous poster for that

FIVE MORE YEARS! TO KILL MORE POOR AND DISABLED

Fixed it for you cendrillion

So Just and Arse are you Labour Party members

If so will you be voting for whoever Corbyn/McDonnell endorse

Please all those that want a credible and fair Labour Party that can win an election join the party so you can have a say in who leads the party or the left of the party shall continue with damaging the party so it’s stays in opposition

If people listened to illiterate rants and silly whining you might have won the election for Labour all by yourself, Just!

If so will you be voting for whoever Corbyn/McDonnell endorse

Not really, depends on the candidates message and how they feel they are going to manage the way ahead for the party and for the country