To think it’s utterly disgraceful that Corbyn hasn’t resigned

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The man is the reason the Labour Party didn’t stand a chance in the GE

Yet today he doesn’t even have the good grace or integrity to step aside

Is their anyone at all who supports him in that decision?

But ‘easy’ = ‘expensive’ which makes it unviable and hence a joke

Not everything that is potentially expensive is unviable. I don’t know the costings for that particular policy but it doesn’t sound impossible to do to me.

@BelleSausage

We live in a right wing country. Unfortunately them's the breaks and yes, I have to accept that. But no, I feel not one iota of personal responsibility.

But noone gives a shit about free broadband!

many of the policies of which operate perfectly well in many European countries

But are paid for by higher taxes that Corbyn insisted wouldn’t happen.

MoobaaMoobaa

I think the manifesto was quite popular. Ten million people voted for them. If people didn’t vote for Corbyn because they think he’s an anti-Semite, or because of Brexit, or because they just don’t like his face, that is what it is, but the policies themselves have a lot of popular support.

Trewser

I’m not sure no-one gives a shit about it. Those who can’t afford it presumably do.

But noone gives a shit about free broadband!

Exactly!

Yet Labour decided this was supposed to be a vote winner when most people saw it for the nonsense it was

@Trewser

No and they don't give a shit about trashing the NHS either. I know which I was more worried about yesterday.

The NHS is on its knees because people abuse it

And Labour didn’t offer any solution which would lead to its resurrection.

Yes. Embarrassing behaviour . Stand down! You lost now move out of the way.

I am somewhat of a swing voter but I checked the policies of both major parties.
Corbyn seemed to me to be the most honest. I didn't agree with all his policies but more of his (working in education and seeing what 10 years off Tories has done to this and also Health). He struck me as being honest, straightforward and unflappable. He didn't shirk interviews.
Mr Johnson avoided interviews, made blatant and obvious lies to the general public, and ran a dirty campaign (fact checking?? false FB posts) and is offensive to single mothers, working class men, people of colour and others. How he convinced the electorate to vote for him feels like i've entered some sort of twilight zone. He must be a genius.
It might be very helpful that most of the media is run by billionaires and it is in their best interest to have a docile and compliant electorate.
I am happy to be corrected. IF Brexit (whatever that is exactly) gets done, IF the NHS isn't sold off, IF 40 new hospitals get built I will eat my proverbial hat.

@TheBlueStocking

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

That is a good one. Keep telling yourself that.

The NHS is on its knees because people abuse it

Or because we have an ageing population, living longer with more health conditions?

@noblegiraffe

Higher taxes and better living conditions. Or lower taxes and this shitshow.

I'd happily move to another European country if it was viable and I didn't love the UK as much as I do.

Labour didn't have any solid plan about improving the NHS or alleviating poverty for that matter.

Honestly, they got it so spectacularly wrong that there's barely any point discussing it!

@BelleSausage

I intend to, don't you worry.

Ten million people voted for them.

You keep saying this as if every one of the ten million made a positive choice for Labour instead of a desperate anti-Johnson one.

Well said Nonnomum

Higher taxes and better living conditions

Indeed. What Corbyn was promising was the same taxes and better living conditions (except for a small minority). Most people smelled bullshit.

@Trewser

Did you hear much out of Boris and his plan for the NHS when he was hiding in the fridge?

You keep saying this as if every one of the ten million made a positive choice for Labour instead of a desperate anti-Johnson one.

I can’t imagine that every single one of them did, no. But the data speaks for itself. The votes are there: 10 million of them. Why exactly each individual voted the way they did, we’ll never know.

But common sense tells me that, since the vote went down rather than up, the people voting Labour in this election are the people who have traditionally voted Labour, not swing voters who just happen not to like Johnson. The swing went the other way.

But common sense tells me that, since the vote went down rather than up, the people voting Labour in this election are the people who have traditionally voted Labour

Um, you know the problem with this election was exactly that the people who have traditionally voted Labour didn’t? Common sense will tell you that looking at the results in the Labour heartlands. Ex mining communities voted Tory ffs.

And the broadband thing. Can't understand the hatred. It just seems like libraries for the 21st century. I expect the wealthy didn't want free books available when libraries came to prominence.

Um, you know the problem with this election was exactly that the people who have traditionally voted Labour didn’t? Common sense will tell you that looking at the results in the Labour heartlands. Ex mining communities voted Tory ffs.

No, some of them didn’t. But those who did are still largely in the traditional Labour heartlands. They’re not people who voted Labour out of desperation not to get Johnson; they were always going to vote Labour, because they always have voted Labour.

Um, you know the problem with this election was exactly that the people who have traditionally voted Labour didn’t? Common sense will tell you that looking at the results in the Labour heartlands. Ex mining communities voted Tory ffs.

And common sense will tell you that the reasons for that cannot simply be didn't fancy Corbyn much. It's a hugely complicated issue. There's no way Corbyn alone is to blame for the current political climate in the UK. It's just not feasible.