If Scotland becomes independent

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If Scotland becomes independent how long until a general election would be called and what do you predict the results would be? Do you think SNP would eventually disband?

I’m interested to hear their plans to pick up their share of the national debt.

I'm more interested in whether the UK is planning to pay their actual debt to the EU.

Maybe England could have a little think about why they are such utterly shit neighbours. To NI, the EU, Scotland, the entire rest of the world barring the white colonies. They are the wanker who barbecues all fucking night with blasting techno, drinking lager, burping and farting and laughing at racist jokes into the night then complains when the neighbours mow their lawns at 9am. I'm sick and fucking tired of England complaining about everyone else. And acting all superior when in real life the Scots didn't the heavy lifting of empire. That's right, even your heyday wasn't English.

@pinkstripeycat I do want independence. So do my dad (50+) DH, DM (50+) SIL, Aunt (50+) And FIL (50+) now leaning that way when before election result he was a no. I know a lot of friends and colleagues who were no now yes after either EU ref or this election including at least one aged 50+.

Glasgow was a bit of an Indy Yes bubble in the last ref though and I’m concerned we’ll have lost as many as we gain, I do not have full confidence in indyref 2 success.

@ScreamingValalalalahLalalalah she was cheering on a win for Amy who I gather she was close to.

But what’s very clear is that MSM, who have been fairly hands off with SNP on this election (as they have been focused on a baseless character assassination of Jeremy Corbyn) are now clear that SNP are again public enemy number 1 and I expect there to be non stop bad press about Nicola Sturgeon and the party between now and any future Indy ref. The Salmond sex offence stuff will be milked to death to attack Nicola and the SNP, at the expense of the poor women he probably assaulted.

@ItsNearlyMorning no actually this is what Spain said www.google.co.uk/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1NP25P

Spain would have no objection to Scotland rejoining the European Union as an independent nation, as long as the secession process from the United Kingdom was legally binding.

I voted no to independence last time
I voted labour on Thursday
I'll vote yes to independence if we get a chance, there will be other people out there exactly the same as me. Voting SNP in a general election isn't the same choice!

I am done being connected to a country which over rules everything. Enough is enough.

If Scotland had another referendum and chose to be independent from rUK, then I think there would have to a transition period of at least 5 years.
They would have to sort out which currency to use, how and who would calculate their income tax, etc (ie they would need their own HMRC). Who would pay their pensions? They will need to have their own central bank, etc. In other words, they will need to replicate all those government departments typical of the UK, in Scotland, such as the DHSS, etc
Who owes what, as in how much of the national debt, Scotland does or does not owe, the end of the Barnet formula, because Scotland would be raising their own taxes, removal of any bases (trident?) In Scotland, and the creation of a trade agreement between Scotland and rUK (remembering that most of their trade is with rUK, than with the EU.)
There's probably a lot of other stuff, but these things are just those that come to mind

I voted no in 2014. My mind couldn't have changed more now, fully support an independent Scotland. We are sick and tired of being ruled by a government that doesn't care. Watch the marches in Glasgow last night, that tells you all you need to know.

What is the point in all these “once in a lifetime” referendums if people are going to keep having them every few years?!

It’s the same as people banging on about FPTP when there was a referendum for that already, recently.

Watch the marches in Glasgow last night, that tells you all you need to know

Just like the Brexit marches told us everything we needed to know?

(Should say “anti-brexit” for the avoidance of doubt)

'What is the point in all these “once in a lifetime” referendums if people are going to keep having them every few years?! '

I dunno, maybe because amoungst all the lies that the unionists came out with in 2014, 'vote no to stay in the EU' was a bit of a whopper.

The hypocracy about it all is what amazes me. If Scotland is such a burden, why would you want the union to stay together? If people are so sure the SNP would lose again, what are you afraid of? If delaying brexit was so anti-democratic, what exactly is denying people a say?

And so on.

I'm Scottish and I don't want us to be independent.

And I am over 59.

50! I'm not over 59 yet.

kidlorneroll

I’m not sure SNP would lose. I don’t think Scotland is a burden - I like Scotland and I want us to stay together.

There is always an argument for another referendum of something - this or that was always misrepresented. These things are on a knife edge and half the population are seemingly always unhappy and it’s exhausting.

They were talking about indref2 almost immediately after the first one, before Brexit was on the cards.

'These things are on a knife edge and half the population are seemingly always unhappy and it’s exhausting.'

This I can well understand. In actuality the constant calls for votes is reflective of a democratic system which is fundamentally unrepresentative with the UK stuck in the dark ages with an electoral system completely unfit for purpose.

I'm Irish, living in Ireland and am amazed that anyone in Scotland does not want an Independent Scotland. For the young people who want to remain in the UK - would you not think an Independent country where you determine your own destiny is preferable? I would have always thought the young were the more progressive but clearly on this issue it seems it is older voters who want independence.

Also, I think a lot has changed since the last referendum, for instance the UK (but actually England and Wales) have voted to leave the EU - whereas the majority in Scotland wanted to remain in the EU.

UK stuck in the dark ages with an electoral system completely unfit for purpose

I don’t disagree with this - but again there was a vote on this!

There was a vote on this when the UK was part of the EU. As circumstances have so fundamentally changed then I think it's reasonable to have another one.

I meant there was a vote on first past the post as a voting system

It is an academic question for the next five years.

Well, there was a vote to move to a only-slightly-less-bad system that still wasn't actually PR. It did serve, however, to kill off electoral reform for the foreseeable future, and that's exactly what the two main parties wanted.

I think the Scottish Parliament must start the process by setting their own tax regime. They should then start taking more control over their own budgets and disentangling and becoming more independent of the rest of the U.K. they also need to see how Brexit pans out, the trade deals arranged and so on. The finances are complicated but if it's financially viable they should go for it.

@Annasgirl I don’t think it is the older voters who want independence? 25-29 year olds were the demographic most likely to have voted yes and 70+ the demographic most likely to vote no.