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to really despise people who won't let others talk politics

185 replies

UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 11:32

I have come across the phrase "it's turning into the House of Commons in here!", cue eyerolls, scoffing and lots of huffing about people daring to talk about politics. Usually by women sadly.

First, where did that godawful phrase come from? I didn't hear it until the EU referendum and then this election campaign, and secondly, why do the people who do this consider their position of political apathy politically superior? Yet also try to impose it on others? And are surprised when this doesn't go down well?

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marchingonwithmother · 11/12/2019 11:33

YABU. Never heard the phrase

ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal · 11/12/2019 11:35

Cos everyone is fed up of it, and talking politics amongst friends is the surest way to start an argument?

PurpleDaisies · 11/12/2019 11:35

Never heard that before.

Where are you hearing this? In a staff room at break it might not be appropriate for heated political debate to happen. Things got really nasty and personal at my last school.

elfsocksandsnowboots · 11/12/2019 11:40

Politics, I find, brings out the worst in people. Also, I'm really not interested in other people's views on it. I've done my own research, quite extensively, before deciding who to vote for (I postal vote so I voted last week) and I'm happy with my vote. So no need for me to hear further endless droning on about it. DH feels the same. Therefore our house is a politics free zone. Which FIL is most put out by, but tough. He can drone on till the cows come home in his own home!

Perhaps, OP, other people are sick of hearing you waffle on about it?!

LuluBellaBlue · 11/12/2019 11:41

Because it’s dull as generally people are just wanting to spout their own opinions (that are superior to anyone else’s) and refuse to actually listen to anyone who disagrees or try and understand anyone else’s perspective.

Do your own research or ask someone’s opinion who you value, but don’t subject your opinion on everyone else without them asking!

UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 11:43

Interesting others haven't heard it. The people who have said it are quite twee, and say it very knowingly. I have seen it from 'friends' (admittedly now ex-friends!) on social media and heard it at gatherings in the pub. Often about other people who are discussing politics, said in a disapproving and increasingly panicked way as they are ignored.

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fridgegrazer · 11/12/2019 11:43

Depends if they're talking or ranting. Usually it's the latter and nobody's got time to be ranted at.

UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 11:44

Just to clarify, it has only once been aimed at me! The other times it was a sort of passive aggressive comment about others.

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reginafelangee · 11/12/2019 11:47

Never heard that phrase.

But not wanting to discuss politics doesn't mean political apathy.

PineappleDanish · 11/12/2019 11:56

Well-mannered debate is fine. But people feel very strongly that their position is "right" and everyone else is "wrong", or feel they have a duty to evangelise about their own political beliefs.

Voting whatever way you choose does not make you a bad reason. Everyone has their own motivations and own set of reasons. But too often a discussion degenerates into mud slinging and name calling and nobody needs that. Certainly not when you're out with friends for lunch or in the workplace.

MarySidney · 11/12/2019 11:56

And yet you want to impose your wish to talk politics on people who would prefer not to? I'm not politically apathetic, but I'd rather not have social occasions dominated by political talk. Especially if it's loud and argumentative, which it sounds like yours was.

It's rude to dominate any gathering by persistently talking about something that not everyone is interested in, whether it's politics, or football, or soap operas, or anything else.

BillHadersNewWife · 11/12/2019 11:58

It's just not sensible in polite company. Do it with very close friends or family...not with general or colleagues. People will always disagree and if you want a bloody debate, join a debating society or go and get into politics.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/12/2019 12:00

Never heard the phrase.
Discussing politics only ends badly unless those discussing are politically aligned. You have to jump on this forum to see how people reference those who think differently about such matters- its appalling.

Bibidy · 11/12/2019 12:00

A lot of people are uncomfortable talking about politics. When I was younger, my mum wouldn't even reveal who she voted for, and I'm not sure she would be comfortable if I asked her now.

PettyContractor · 11/12/2019 12:01

There's nothing wrong with asking people to drop a topic you don't want to talk/hear about. If you've talked about it the extent you have to be asked to stop, you're the one in the wrong.

UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 12:06

So they are basically 'shy Tories' then.

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ChristmasCakeLover · 11/12/2019 12:08

Never heard that phrase. Happy to debate with normal people willing to listen and not impose or try to belittle.

We have banned 2 relatives from politics talk in this house. However that's because they love to argue with each other and stress everyone else out- 1 a tory 1 labour. Plus they are alcoholics so consume copious amounts of alcohol to enjoy the 'debate'. Actually an aggressive scream fest. As such politics are banned in our house around them, or they'll be banned as both turn nasty.

HanginWithMyGnomies · 11/12/2019 12:10

🙄 ‘despise’ Pretty strong word. I can glean all I need to about how you’d come across in a ‘discussion’.

ChristmasCakeLover · 11/12/2019 12:11

And last time i admitted my political leanings, i was laughed and belittled by both for wasting my vote on a 'useless party who will never get in!' I won't bother arguing with narrow minded people.

OverthinkingThis · 11/12/2019 12:11

YABU OP, though I've never heard that phrase you quoted.
I have no desire to spend what few breaks I get at work listening to my co-workers droning on about political ideas they've mostly got from Facebook. And no I'm not a Tory, shy or otherwise.

PooWillyBumBum · 11/12/2019 12:13

Never heard of the saying but to be honest I think there are some forums where politics are best left out, e.g. work and also social occasions where people don’t know each other well.

Bananabeak · 11/12/2019 12:15

It gets folk riled up and traditionally you’d never discuss it so it’s probably one of those reasons.

BillHadersNewWife · 11/12/2019 12:19

I'm no Tory but I think talking politics when some in the group don't want to is simply rude.

Maybe you don't have any manners OP.

SpiderHunter · 11/12/2019 12:19

I have no desire to spend what few breaks I get at work listening to my co-workers droning on about political ideas they've mostly got from Facebook.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment that politics is best avoided at work, your argument here is very weak. A lot of people don't want to hear co-workers droning on about their children, but very few would be so rude as to passive aggressively tell a co-worker to stop talking about their children. Yet it is acceptable for politics?

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 11/12/2019 12:19

I hate seeing it on social media. Someone puts on a political opinion and the responses are 'since when were you a politician' etc...if you dont like it, scroll past. I'd rather see people take an interest in the election, personally, than a debate on who should have been the winner of love island, or pictures of someones dinner, or an over emotional post about their latest boyfriend

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