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to really despise people who won't let others talk politics

185 replies

UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 11:32

I have come across the phrase "it's turning into the House of Commons in here!", cue eyerolls, scoffing and lots of huffing about people daring to talk about politics. Usually by women sadly.

First, where did that godawful phrase come from? I didn't hear it until the EU referendum and then this election campaign, and secondly, why do the people who do this consider their position of political apathy politically superior? Yet also try to impose it on others? And are surprised when this doesn't go down well?

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BolloxtoGender · 11/12/2019 12:20

YABU

How tolerant are you to despise people who would rather not hear others talking politics.

Maybe I'm old school but I thought the general social etiquette is (or was) that we don't talk politics (or Religion), probably because it can be divisive.

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 11/12/2019 12:20

Ps goes without saying that it should be kept respectful, as with anything I dont like it when it turns into 'people that vote x are morons' etc

slartibarti · 11/12/2019 12:21

Bit extreme to despise people who don't want to talk politics.
Perhaps you have form for being intolerant of other's views or trying to "educate" them and it's just you they don't want to talk to.
Many people prefer to keep their opinions to themselves and avoid arguments.

BillHadersNewWife · 11/12/2019 12:29

Spider small talk is small talk....that includes family, hobbies, music...you know, things that aren't potentially offensive.

UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 12:31

I hate seeing it on social media. Someone puts on a political opinion and the responses are 'since when were you a politician' etc...if you dont like it, scroll past.

This is exactly what I mean. It's part of a suggestion that "politics aren't for the likes of you/us" isn't it?

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Apolloanddaphne · 11/12/2019 12:33

I refuse to discuss politics in a group. I am not a tory voter, shy or otherwise.

Patroclus · 11/12/2019 12:33

ohhh yeh, you'll see them all on social media tommorow ''everybody is suddenly and expert on politics'', because people dare take an interest in something other than ITV island based rutting competitions

agapanthus1979 · 11/12/2019 12:38

You seem pretty vicious, op. I indulge in political discussions, but I entirely respect the fact that some people are fatigued or sick of it all. It doesn't mean they're apathetic or 'opting out' of voicing a view, it just means they could do with a change of focus.
People who keep on and on about politics are tiring, and not necessarily as interesting as they sometimes think.. Recognise the social cues, and accept the fact that there are other things people find important.

user1471448556 · 11/12/2019 12:43

I enjoy discussing politics. It has never been more important. I despair of people who are ‘not into politics’. Well, politics is into you ... whether you like it or not. Policy affects us all in some way and can shape a country for better or worse for generations. I’m really bored of people who want to talk about Strictly or Love Island or I’m a Celeb at social gatherings, but I politely join in. I only ever talk politics if others bring it up ... but then I really get involved ... because I know a lot about it and I find it fascinating.

SilverySurfer · 11/12/2019 12:44

What is this bullshit I keep seeing about 'shy Tories?' All the Tory voters I know, including me, are loud and proud.

OfficerPetriHawkinsByrd · 11/12/2019 12:46

Yanbu, but I am a politics graduate so am possibly biased.

crispysausagerolls · 11/12/2019 12:49

I get the feeling from your “shy tories” comment that this is a subtle Tory bashing thread

Stooshie8 · 11/12/2019 12:52

Sounds like you are one of those illiberal liberal lefties who KNOWS the answers and is desperate to advise any Tory in whinge distance of their misconceptions.

PreseaCombatir · 11/12/2019 12:54

Maybe they’re just sick of you banging on

VanyaHargreeves · 11/12/2019 12:55

It can be extremely divisive and can cause massive arguments and negativity between people who would otherwise have continued to have got on well and respect each other and now don't

There's a reason "Don't talk politics or religion in mixed company" became a saying

arethereanyleftatall · 11/12/2019 12:57

Yabu.
My own experience is that it's utterly the other way round regarding superiority.
If the talk turns to politics, everybody is expected to listen and contribute, regardless of whether they have zero interest in it or not. I like cricket, I don't ask my friend who thinks should bat at number 3 because I know she has no clue, neither is she interested. Those things hold for me for politics, but somehow asking me who I'm voting for and why is acceptable. So, yab completely unreasonable.

woodchuck99 · 11/12/2019 12:57

It doesn't mean their apathetic necessarily. They may just totally disagree with your views and not want to get into an argument with you about it.

Fairylea · 11/12/2019 12:59

I am a labour voter and I enjoy discussing politics on here, where it’s anonymous. I can’t stand discussing things with people I actually know because it always descends into a bun fight and can ruin relationships. I never like or post anything political on any of my social media for the same reason. I think people are just fed up with it all.

CharityConundrum · 11/12/2019 13:25

Perhaps dismissing people as 'politically apathetic' or 'shy tories' if they don't wish to hear your political views contributes to the unwillingness people seem to feel to discuss politics with you OP.

If you are finding that several sets of people are saying this to you, then it's likely that your style of 'discussion' is boring/aggressive/ill-informed/otherwise unwelcome rather than that all these individuals are simply not interested in politics.

OfficerPetriHawkinsByrd · 11/12/2019 13:25

I mean...again, possibly I'm biased, but I think if you have zero interest in politics...I just can't imagine it. It effects everything we do and everything we have. It's not compatible to cricket really, I don't think.

I am not voting labour this time, so I'm not a lefty illiberal liberal or whatever, but if you feel unable to discuss or defend your political choices, maybe you are making the wrong ones for you? Just a thought and definitely not meant to be offensive anti Tory. I have had many amazing discussions on here and IRL with Tories and would never be so thick headed as to write anyone off for voting Tory.

OfficerPetriHawkinsByrd · 11/12/2019 13:25

Comparable*

PhDone · 11/12/2019 13:30

I haven't said this exactly, but I'm just utterly utterly sick of hearing it all...
I'm voting libdem FWIW

LolaSmiles · 11/12/2019 13:34

I don't mind people deciding they don't want to talk politics (and I think in some situations it's best avoided), but what I tend to find is people who make stupid comments like "eeeh it's like the house of commons" etc tend to be people who are quite ignorant and also tend to say things like "oh well they're all as bad as each other" and also dismiss things from experts because they don't do experts. It seems very much like because they can't be bothered to take an interest beyond a few sound bites then nobody else should.

KatherineJaneway · 11/12/2019 13:36

I usually find people who are desperate to talk about politics tend to think their way is right and other views are wrong and then they bang on about how right they are. It's tedious to be honest and not worth their while, I've already voted by post.

nilcarborundum · 11/12/2019 13:39

Yabu. I don't discuss politics or religion with friends, they cause too many arguments!