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to really despise people who won't let others talk politics

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UnderHisEyeBall · 11/12/2019 11:32

I have come across the phrase "it's turning into the House of Commons in here!", cue eyerolls, scoffing and lots of huffing about people daring to talk about politics. Usually by women sadly.

First, where did that godawful phrase come from? I didn't hear it until the EU referendum and then this election campaign, and secondly, why do the people who do this consider their position of political apathy politically superior? Yet also try to impose it on others? And are surprised when this doesn't go down well?

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heartsonacake · 12/12/2019 12:29

YABU. Politics is boring and dull and does nothing but cause arguments (under the disguise of ‘debate’).

I will swiftly end or leave any conversation that turns to politics. I have my own political opinions and I will vote accordingly, I have no interest in discussing them with anyone else.

UnderHisEyeBall · 12/12/2019 12:41

Loopytiles first of all most recently online with a group of mums I actually know iyswim who I reminded needed to register to vote by that evening if they want.

Another time was voicing my sadness over the Referendum result.

On another occasion at a friend's birthday at the pub. Actually it wasn't aimed at me, but the 'men who were discussing politics' next to me. Apparently they couldn't hear my tiny little woman's voice.

Never at a funeral Grin

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MarySidney · 12/12/2019 12:42

but if you're in a big group of people and one person vetoes all discussion of politics when everyone else is having a decent conversation about it, then the veto person is the rude one imo.

But then is it polite for that one person to be excluded because everyone else insists on talking about something s/he isn't interested in/doesn't want to talk about? Would it be ok if one person was left excluded because everyone else wanted to talk about football, or religion, or their latest long haul holiday?

LolaSmiles · 12/12/2019 12:59

As long as everyone is having a good discussion and being respectful it is incredibly rude for some ignorant individual to pipe up with "because I can't or won't discuss x, y or z nobody here is allowed to".
This

There are many conversation topics that I don't feel I have much to offer or that I'm not interested in. I don't veto them or get passive aggressive or make childish comments because it's not my chosen topic.

Mary People talk about all kinds of topics and not everyone is totally interested in everything all the time. It would be most dull if people had to only talk about things where everyone has an equal interest in every topic.

easyandy101 · 12/12/2019 13:01

I absolutely despise that sort of bigoted racism. Should I not say that I despise those views in case the racists and racist supporters get offended?

That's quite a different position from hating someone for not wanting to talk about politics though isn't?

But this thread is a good example of why people don't want to talk to some people about politics, apparently being unwilling to discuss it with your colleagues or whoever means you're low info, or secretly right wing or the holder of hateful views that couldn't be aired this side of 1970

Like i said I'm not averse to political discussion and no one's ever said "oh it's like the house of commons in here" probably because i don't hang around with anyone fucking stupid enough to say something like that but also possibly because i don't bang on like a twat about it when it's unwanted

AutumnRose1 · 12/12/2019 13:10

OP “Loopytiles first of all most recently online with a group of mums I actually know iyswim who I reminded needed to register to vote by that evening if they want.”

Wheat did they reply please?

MarySidney · 12/12/2019 13:30

People talk about all kinds of topics and not everyone is totally interested in everything all the time. It would be most dull if people had to only talk about things where everyone has an equal interest in every topic.

AIBU:
"I have a group of friends whom I meet for a drink or a meal every so often. The last few times we have met, they have all talked about xxxxxx all evening. I'm reasonably interested in xxxxxx, but I don't want to spend all evening talking about it every time we meet. Sometimes the discussion gets quite heated, especially when people have had a couple of drinks, and that makes me uncomfortable. Every time I try to change the subject, they ignore me and carry on and I'm left sitting on my own with no-one to talk to. AIBU to feel as if I don't want to meet up with these people any more, if I'm just going to be ignored all evening?"

ReanimatedSGB · 12/12/2019 13:41

If your friends are always discussing a subject which doesn't interest you but is of passionate interest to them, maybe it's time for new friends. People having an intense and enjoyable (to them) discussion don't want to have it derailed by someone sighing and tutting and trying to deflect the conversation to something the majority aren't interested in discussing.

LolaSmiles · 12/12/2019 13:50

Mary
Or to give an alternative slant
I meet up with friends and they're all interested in discussing X. I'm not interested in discussing it so don't make an attempt to engage, keep trying to change the topic to one that suits me and am really annoyed that they'd rather talk about their topic than mine. AIBU to think the whole social group should change the topic of conversation to fit what I want to talk about?

ReanimatedSGB sums it up here:

People having an intense and enjoyable (to them) discussion don't want to have it derailed by someone sighing and tutting and trying to deflect the conversation to something the majority aren't interested in discussing.

I'm not a big telly lover. Lots of my colleagues enjoy watching box sets and / or following The Apprentice or seasona reality TV programmes like Love Island. Telly conversation comes up quite a lot during our lunch breaks.
It would be ridiculous to go away thinking All my colleagues are always talking about tv and box sets knowing I don't watch TV much and don't follow those shows. Maybe I should make passive aggressive digs about how nobody cares about The Apprentice or something on Netflix because we've got better things to do with our lives. It happens so often when people get really into a show, for example Game of Thrones was talk of the team for months. It's basically social exclusion and they're being really rude to me

Durgasarrow · 12/12/2019 14:47

I grew up in a household of conservatives and was the only liberal. Every holiday was torture.

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