to really despise people who won't let others talk politics

[UnderHisEyeBall]

I have come across the phrase "it's turning into the House of Commons in here!", cue eyerolls, scoffing and lots of huffing about people daring to talk about politics. Usually by women sadly.

First, where did that godawful phrase come from? I didn't hear it until the EU referendum and then this election campaign, and secondly, why do the people who do this consider their position of political apathy politically superior? Yet also try to impose it on others? And are surprised when this doesn't go down well?

Divulges*

Maybe they are politely trying to tell you to give it a rest?

Yes, we all know it is important but you don’t have to bang on about it.

I have no issue with talking politics but I have had to snooze a couple of particularly prolific sharers on Facebook today, one of whom has already shared at least a dozen "Jeremy Corbyn" posters already this morning, as it's bordering on hectoring now (and I lean leftwards).

I take it all of you 'not-apathetic-but-don't-want-it-shoved-down-my-throat' types are voting today??

Women under 35 could swing this thing.

@DeeZastris

You seem determined to make this about me personally for some reason. I can assure you that nobody has politely or otherwise told me to give it a rest IRL. When I say that about people having a "don't do politics me" blanket policy, I am referring to people on here and on other media who have said almost exactly that, but not directed at me.

But if you like, you can pretend I'm some unhinged
angry person who shouts at people about Brexit on street corners.

Politics is seriously divisive at the minute, particularly between Tory and Labour voters. Throw Brexit into the mix and it has the potential to cause fall outs within minutes!

I'm happy to discuss politics, but I always find out which party the person I'm talking to will vote for. If we both support the same party or a similar party, great, I'll discuss it, if we support different parties I change the subject quickly, really can't be bothered with the inevitable animosity.

It's a sad state of affairs, intolerance is always at the forefront these days.

shiny
I agree.
I feel quite happy debating politics with anyone who thinks about their position beyond soundbites and memes.

What I dislike is when people bring it up at the wrong time.
For example we had a family birthday meal last month and one (older) relative (who lives in an echo chamber of right wing politics and prone to "they're all as bad as each other... These so called experts") kept trying to bring up politics and Brexit. The vast majority of people on our end of the table were trying to move the conversation along but relative was really persistent. In the end another relative ended up saying "today is the wrong occasion for politics when it's dad's birthday meal". Politics relative looked offended but they were ignoring the fact that it wasn't a political conversation; it was a political monologue punctuated by people trying to shift the conversation.

I enjoy political discussion but it's too much aggro discussing it with self righteous muppets

Evangelists, political or religious, can do one

I'd happily chat about politics rather than the usual inane chatter that goes on in our office.

I've had many conversations with people who don't hold the same political leanings as I do, never had a fight about it.

This ridiculous "never discuss politics" stuff is laughable. The adults I know can talk about it without falling out.

It's very rude to talk politics in social settings unless you know that the person you are talking with is up for a political debate

It really isn't.

This ridiculous "never discuss politics" stuff is laughable. The adults I know can talk about it without falling out.

For me IRL it's not never, it's choose wisely who you speak to, you're ideally looking to avoid the kind of person who lets words like despise into the discourse.

It's terribly twee all of this 'not letting words like despise into the discourse' you know? All a bit, laydeees should be polite when discussing men's business imo.

Why can't women be angry about politics and express it without people trying to shame them for it?

I am sick to death of British politics filling up
the threads. Boring!!!

Maybe stay off the internet while a general election is happening then country?

'Never let words like despise into discourse' sounds like a twee way of saying 'oh do be nice, don't say you hate anything in conversation, all views are equal'.

C4 news went undercover in a North Eadt Brexit Party branch and found people laughing about trying to break into a mosque building site to put a pig head in the foundations.
www.channel4.com/news/racism-in-key-brexit-party-campaign

I absolutely despise that sort of bigoted racism. Should I not say that I despise those views in case the racists and racist supporters get offended?

@lolasmiles

Of course you shouldn't despise that. Surely you don't discuss or express any sort of opinion on politics do you? What is the world coming to? I miss the 1970s so!

Silence on all matters of state is what is expected of us plebs you know. Quiet disapproval might be ok, but if anyone asks you anything about it, you must of course answer "don't do politics me". That's how countries become wonderful. Fact.

OfficerPetriHawkinsByrd
Of course, it wouldn't do for a woman to be angry about politics or express a view.
It's all about protecting feelings and pretending that all views are equally valid.

I love politics and think there's time and places for heathy debate. In general respect is a given, but sometimes attitudes and views don't deserve that respect and should be challenged. For me bigoted and racist views are something I despise and I won't play along with them being equally valid just because theyve called themselves the Brexit Party. Equally, I feel strongly about apathy and people who try to shut down debate around their own ignorance. Debate or don't, but don't try to police other people discussing politics who want to with silly comments like "eeh like the house of commons here / I don't do politics, what's the point?"

OP yes I voted first thing en route to work.

I’m 43 though so perhaps you don’t want my vote

It's very rude to talk politics in social settings unless you know that the person you are talking with is up for a political debate

It really isn't.

It's rude to persist in talking about anything in a social setting if the other person has indicated s/he doesn't want to discuss it.

Some people follow the religion and politics 'rule' and its rude to continue if that's the case.

Otherwise all participants should remain respectful to each other.

And discussion is discussion, not an opportunity to regurgitate your favoured manifesto or sling mud until the other submits.

Actually, mud slinging has been an unwelcome aspect of this election for me. Labour are accused of antisemitism, they reply that the Conservatives are islamaphobic. Someone digs up a video of Corbyn being nice to alleged terrorist organisation whilst trying to broker peace, then someone presents perceived comments from BJ out of context, and in one case, edited by c4. I don't think any of this stuff persuades anyone to their cause, just reinforces a football hooligan mentality to your 'team'.

Money is another topic that used to be off limits in a social setting.

Some people follow the religion and politics 'rule' and its rude to continue if that's the case.

It is rude to force anyone else to discuss anything they specifically say they don't want to, of course. But this is about people policing the internet saying it shouldn't be discussed at all, cos it's booooring or I don't want to hear about it. Frankly thick headedness because they are being wilfully ignorant and insist that everyone follow suit.

It's rude to persist in talking about anything in a social setting if the other person has indicated s/he doesn't want to discuss it.

Yes, it is, but if you're in a big group of people and one person vetoes all discussion of politics when everyone else is having a decent conversation about it, then the veto person is the rude one imo. You don't get to trump everyone else because "politics is rude". It isn't rude, it's just sometimes divisive, so people discussing it should be mindful and respectful, in the same way that people discussing breastfeeding or being a SAHM vs WOHM or anything else should. As long as everyone is having a good discussion and being respectful it is incredibly rude for some ignorant individual to pipe up with "because I can't or won't discuss x, y or z nobody here is allowed to".

I enjoy talking politics but not with people who refuse to entertain the idea that possibly every bit of information they've read could be wrong, or that just because someone's opinion is different to theirs it doesn't mean they're wrong to vote how they voted. Also, the utter aggression by some is just not acceptable. So I refuse to talk politics with mostly everyone.

Where / in what circumstances have you sought to discuss politics and been asked to stop, OP?