AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?

[thentherewerefour]

Not sure how everyone else is doing, but I am just increasingly terrified about the idea that BJ and the likes of Jacob Rees-Morgan, Ian Duncan Smith (god they are just so disgusting ) are going to win this election. Got family in Australia and this morning it was raining ash and people literally can't breathe. The Tories are going to do nothing, zero, nada about climate change. And when I look at my kids I just don't know how we are going to survive another five years. and don't get my started about the state of the kid's school - the teachers are doing their best, but the reality is it's a shit show bc of how many cuts they have had. Friends are going canvassing for Labour and me and DH are doing our bit too - but it all just feels surreal - BJ talks shit, tells lies, and has reinvented himself as "new" when the fucker has been IN GOVT for years. Any got any ideas on how we can turn this around?

@Teenangels

Not one party is ideal, far from it. But the idea that Labour would be worse than the Conservatives is ludicrous. The panic that is expressed when people talk about Corbyn is ridiculous. Our society as it is now is damaging to so many. the divide between the rich and the poor is growing. So even if Corbyn and Co are not getting everything right, they are going in the right direction. They want to make things better. The Tories don't give a shit.

I went off LibDem with that recent interview re self id

@MarshaBradyo

So is Corbyn too far left but Boris not quite too far right?

I’m conflicted I prefer small state but lower inequality. I’m not yet decided

@BlueEyedBengal

You are less scared of Boris because you don't know what his policies are?

Hence thinking I should look for non-biased info

Have you heard the latest quote (from this morning) about controling the number of "people of colour" coming to this country?!? Utterly fucking terrifying. YANBU.
@CatintheFireplace
Which would be shocking if it were true. But it's not. Channel 4 have apologised for mucking up the subtitles.

I don't get why people are scared of JC, he is the puppet. The people to be scared of are John McDonnell and his Marxist cronies who are behind him. Labour are absolutely unvotable while they are so far to the left. It pains me to say it, but if they took a more centrist approach now they would sweep the board -and this is from a dyed in the wool Conservative voter!

@Faffette
The direction that JC and friends for me is too far. I believe that some of the Tory policies are too far for me but when added up the Tories are a less scary prospect.
I can’t wait for JC to resign and for someone sensible leads the party away from momentum.
I am afraid the likes of momentum, and the hard left of the party are becoming aggressive to everyone who disagrees with them, and that will do the Labour Party a great disservice.

@faffette, just a centre ground Labour Party would do for most people. They’d win a landslide victory!

Nobody looking at the polls can surely think Corbyn will get a majority? I think a minority Labour/SNP/Green/Plaid Cymru government could be brilliant. A second referendum, an end to austerity, but not a big enough majority to enact the more expensive parts of Corbyn's manifesto. Even his own Labour MPs won't vote for plenty of them.

People seem to be insisting we have a choice between Corbyn or Johnson. But the truth is that a Corbyn majority isn't really on the table if the polls are to be believed. A Corbyn minority government is exactly what most of this thread seems to be asking for - a less radical, more centrist, less economically problematic left-wing government. If that's what you want, just vote for whichever non-Tory got the most votes last time in your constituency.

@thentherewerefour

France is practically communist, what with their 35 hours week. What Labour is proposing is really not that far left. I think you want a Labour party leaning to the right. So not much of an opposition then. And that is OK. When you have money and security, why vote for socialism.

What it comes down to really is the fear of the unknown. Let's not try something new. Let's vote what we know. It is shit but at leas we know how shit.

@Tylee

That would be such a relief if this happened.

France is practically communist, what with their 35 hours week

Corbyn wants a 4 day week and a lot of Labour's current policies are far too close to Venezuela. Labour even said they would close schools and hospitals to stand alongside striking rail workers. Shocking.

DdraigGoch
Have you heard the latest quote (from this morning) about controling the number of "people of colour" coming to this country?!? Utterly fucking terrifying. YANBU.
@CatintheFireplace
Which would be shocking if it were true. But it's not. Channel 4 have apologised for mucking up the subtitles.

You got there first! Disgraceful from channel 4. For those bringing up social media videos, check out the one where the man quotes Jeremy Corbyn quotes and actions to Labour activists, pretending that Boris said or did those things. They universally condemn him and say that Labour would throw them out. Then its pointed out that it was Messiah Corbyn in actual fact. See them squirm!

So the OP is "hysterical" but those claiming to be "terrified" of Corbyn are not? Ok then. No OP YANBU. Apart from the fact that Boris is a lying, racist, homophobic, misogynistic piece of shit who I would not trust as far as I could throw; the tories in their own manifesto (p48) indicate their intention to make changes to our constitution. A conservative government with little to zero accountability really is shit scary.

@MrsNoMopp

Where did they say this?

There are good reason to fear a majority government led by Johnson.

He has a habit of referring to Muslim women as “letterboxes,” black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles,” and gay men as “tank-topped bum boys.”

Which begs the question – how can various members of his government bring themselves to share a platform, or even a room, with him? Surely Sajid Javid and Nadhim Zahawi are as offended by his remarks about Muslim women as they are about Corbyn’s alleged antisemitism?. Does James Cleverly, the Chairman of the Conservative Party, not feel any discomfort when people who share his West African heritage are referred to so disparagingly?

As a mother with an apparently stellar CV, how does Andrea Leadsom feel about working mothers being accused of bringing up sons who were ‘more likely to mug you’?

As a proud Scot, how does Michael Gove feel about the poem that Johnson published in The Spectator which described Scots as ‘a verminous race" and included the line that "The nation deserves not merely isolation, but comprehensive extermination".

Why do these Conservatives (and the supporters here on MN) just shrug and look the other way – and why are they willing to support such a crass individual? Remember, even his close former colleagues have long since found him out. In the opinion of former Conservative minister Nick Boles, Johnson is “a compulsive liar who has betrayed every single person he has ever had any dealings with.”

I completely agree with you OP 😥

@Havanananana

And yet he is not as scary as Corbyn. Go figure.

JC would be worse. Lots of people I know holding their nose and voting for BJ

Corbyn does nothing about anti Semitic labour members because he’s a puppet. He’s kept in power by these people so why would he want them expelled? Why would we want a PM who is a tetchy puppet? He’s simply not a person who is able to follow up effectively when his acolytes say and do something wrong. He would be s useless pm and MacDonnell and Landesman would be running the cabinet. The socialist policies go too far and everyone knows they are not affordable.

Boris lies. They won’t “get Brexit done” in the timescale. I’m definitely not wanting either of them. Rees Mogg has been silenced. There are very poor candidates on offer for both main parties and voting Lib Dem is the only possibility here. Self declaration of sex doesn’t really impact on me.

And let’s not forget JC is no angel he has had affairs and is anti Semitic. He is also very stubborn not a good trait in a leader

Shame on anyone voting for BJ!

They will need to rely on social care, NHS or the emergency services one day & then they will understand what they have contributed to.

Bastards.