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AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?

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thentherewerefour · 06/12/2019 10:31

Not sure how everyone else is doing, but I am just increasingly terrified about the idea that BJ and the likes of Jacob Rees-Morgan, Ian Duncan Smith (god they are just so disgusting Angry) are going to win this election. Got family in Australia and this morning it was raining ash and people literally can't breathe. The Tories are going to do nothing, zero, nada about climate change. And when I look at my kids I just don't know how we are going to survive another five years. and don't get my started about the state of the kid's school - the teachers are doing their best, but the reality is it's a shit show bc of how many cuts they have had. Friends are going canvassing for Labour and me and DH are doing our bit too - but it all just feels surreal - BJ talks shit, tells lies, and has reinvented himself as "new" when the fucker has been IN GOVT for years. Any got any ideas on how we can turn this around?

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Logjam · 10/12/2019 08:04

But I would never wish on you the knowledge that comes with growing up somewhere where true governmental and societal instability is horrific. I know - talk to anyone who grew up in the 70's in N.Ireland - then look at that idiot Johnson, bull in a china shop would be the best we could expect from him - he will screw over any one to get his way - the DUP see that now...they are keeping a lid on the loyalist paramilitaries for the moment...still it's hysterical to worry about these things Hmm - Johnson clearly doesn't!

ArseDarkly · 10/12/2019 14:01

I truly think he's incapable of understanding such fears or any empathy at all. Johnson's a classic psychopath.

DowntownAbby · 10/12/2019 14:25

Odds are ever shortening for a Cons majority government.

(Much better than looking at poll results; bookies don't like to lose money so don't get it far wrong very often.)

AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?
Trewser · 10/12/2019 14:30

Well, the Lib Dems got that spectacularly wrong, didn't they?

icantbecani · 10/12/2019 14:31

Not as scared as I am about an ineffectual coalition or even worse JC.

ArseDarkly · 10/12/2019 17:55

Odds are ever shortening for a Cons majority government

And yet there's Tories all over MN and other social media pulling out all the stops to sabotage labour. Funny that..Confused

Trewser · 10/12/2019 18:33

I don't think Labour need any help sabotaging themselves, tbh.

BertrandRussell · 10/12/2019 18:40

What I find strange is that the Tories have done stuff which would have completely scuppered any other campaign but it has bade no difference!

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/12/2019 18:43

Jon Ashworth was apparently just joshing around Hmm

Yes of course Jon we all believe you

Skyejuly · 10/12/2019 18:51

Boris manages to effectively run across a motorway blindfolded and gets away with it

CharlottesPleb · 10/12/2019 18:56

Jeremy Corbyn is unelectable, but I am far more disturbed by the idea of giving serious power to a Labour Party that considers McDonnell, Abbot and Thornberry its heavy hitters - if the newspapers said that team had won a pub quiz it would be an obvious lie, never mind the unsavoury views.

CakeandCustard28 · 10/12/2019 18:59

I agree! However labour isn’t going to much good either with JC in power, I wish they had a different leader. Might vote for the greens. 🤔

BertrandRussell · 10/12/2019 19:10

John Ashworth was chatting to a long standing friend, saying what many Labour Party members think in what he thought was a private conversation. The friend recorded him and made the conversation public. Not surprised the Tories aren’t making a huge deal about one of their activists behaving in such a snakey manner.......

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/12/2019 19:19

What are you taking about Boris Johnson made reference to it on Twitter

Not many care that this was a recording from a private conversation

fascicle · 10/12/2019 19:40

Not many care that this was a recording from a private conversation

People should be concerned by the ethics of the Tory activist 'friend'. Covert recording would be problematic in e.g. a court setting. But maybe you've identified the problem - people not caring enough...

Jon Ashworth /Jeremy Corbyn should do a Boris and say it was taken out of context.

Trewser · 10/12/2019 19:45

No one is going to change their mind now. Poor guy was just saying what everyone thinks. I expect he'll be dimissed for "re-education" on Friday

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/12/2019 19:47

If this was a tory cabinet member being secretly recorded by a labour activist and it was released Labour supporters would be jumping up and down with glee saying see even his ministers think he is a wanker

JA has said it was taken out of context or along those lines but people are not stupid

He would have been better to hold his hands up and say well this is what I am hearing and this is what concerns me

BertrandRussell · 10/12/2019 20:44

“ Labour supporters would be jumping up and down with glee saying see even his ministers think he is a wanker ”
I wouldn’t. I would be saying that it was a shit thing to do to someone who’s been a friend for 13 years.

Logjam · 10/12/2019 20:54

Labour supporters would be jumping up and down with glee saying see even his ministers think he is a wanker I just thought the Tory "friend" turned out to be a pretty shit friend. Sad

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/12/2019 20:54

Well maybe you Bertrand

Most of us are not so saintly and would just tune into the gossip

BertrandRussell · 10/12/2019 20:57

“Most of us are not so saintly and would just tune into the gossip”

Really? Oh well- that’s Tory ethics for you..

Logjam · 10/12/2019 21:00

AIBU to think my friend is a bitch and not really a friend at all for taping me slagging off my boss and then sending it to him?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/12/2019 21:07

Oh you walked straight into that Bertrand

One I am not a Tory - long time mn member and LP ex member often on political threads

Seriously please you come across as too intelligent to believe that simply placing a X next to a political party makes you more morally superior

It doesn’t and I really hope you do not believe it does

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 10/12/2019 21:08

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BertrandRussell · 10/12/2019 21:38

“Seriously please you come across as too intelligent to believe that simply placing a X next to a political party makes you more morally superior

It doesn’t and I really hope you do not believe it does“
I don’t think it does, no. But if I had to pick the more ethical campaign...

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