Are the conservatives really this popular?

[LabourHere]

Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad

I agree. If Corbyn, McDonnall, Thornbury, RLB, Abbott, Ian Lavery....etc weren't there it would be a landslide Labour victory.

I want Labour to loose this election so Labour can get rid of a lot of these front benchers and Momentum. Bring in someone new. Fresh air. Change.

If only Cooper had won the original leadership election I think we'd be in a very different position now.

Who are all the other conservative voters??

The fact that you are unable to conceive why anyone votes Tory suggests you inhabit an echo chamber and consequently believe that your opinions are shared by everyone. They are not. As to who is voting Conservative? People who don’t want the economy cratered by McDonnell, who thinks Chairman Mao’s Red Book is an instruction manual, people who don’t want Momentum in the Treasury, women who believe in sex segregated spaces and are sick of double speak from Dawn Butler et al, many of the more than 17 million who voted Brexit, people who believe that liberal policies on sentencing prompted by both parties over the last twenty years needs to come to an end. Inter alia

Most people don’t want to pay more tax, apart from the momentum bots on MN

Not sure how you can even spot them amongst all the "Boris is actually great", "Corbyn eats babies" posts.

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I think it's very, very regional. It seems everyone in my local area is voting Conservative. One person who has been a lifelong Labour voter will, for the first time, not be voting for them.

People in Scotland who don’t want a 2nd Indy referendum also are generally voting Tory.

I don’t know anyone who will be voting Tory. All my Tory friends are turning to the LDs because of Brexit. Also - a lot of young people have registered to vote and they tend not to like the Tories. Only 6% of students intend to vote Tory. This is a hard one to call and a hung parliament would be a good outcome, in my opinion. Five more years of the Tories will push this country to the brink - good luck if you’re poor.

There are a lot of nasty uncaring people in the UK - look how popular Thatcher was despite being the root cause of our current inequality and destroying communities

There are a lot of nasty uncaring people in the UK

The cliches are tedious. As is the failure to comprehend any of the reasons why millions of voters do not want to surrender the economy, fiscal policy, foreign policy to John McDonnell and his buddies.

If Labour were not so far to the left, they would thrash the Tories as they are right now. Such a wasted opportunity.

You live in a bubble. I suggest you travel around the UK if you want to get a feel for how people think. Social media is not a litmus test of the real world.

I don’t think the Tories would be as they are now if we had a stronger Labour Party. A stronger opposition makes a stronger government as it will keep it in check.
I blame Ed Miliband
David Miliband is the greatest Labour Party leader that never was.

It's not that the Conservatives are popular, it's Labour that are spectacularly unpopular. The thread title should really be, "Are Labour really this unpopular?"

Most ‘traditional’ tory supporters that I know are voting tory this time ‘holding their nose’. Most tory supporters are not keen on Boris.

The most vocal ‘Boris lovers’ that I know are ex-Labour voting Leave supporters. They feel totally abandoned by the Labour Party who they feel is totally out of touch with them.

The fact that Ian Lavery - seen by many in the North as the epitome of trade union corruption - is now ‘spearheading’ the Labour Leave campaign in the north - speaks volumes.

The fact that Ian Lavery - seen by many in the North as the epitome of trade union corruption - is now ‘spearheading’ the Labour Leave campaign in the north - speaks volumes

It does. It’s the kind of spectacular own goal that makes you want to bang your head repeatedly on the wall.

Children are starving under austerity. It boggles my mind that people are willing to overlook this and vote in a government with this track record. If you earn over £80k and resent the extra tenner a month in tax to help prevent this, you really need to have a word with yourself.

Agree with previous posters.
I'm a Tory voter, but would have seriously considered Labour were they not so far left.

Additionally, the big thing that puts me off Labour is the thought of another referendum etc when we have already voted to leave 🤷🏻‍♀️

The cliches are tedious
Aw did IM’s

As is the failure to comprehend any of the reasons why millions of voters do not want to surrender the economy, fiscal policy, foreign policy to John McDonnell and his buddies.
It’s not a failure to comprehend your patronising nastiness, it's straight out disagreement.
Nothing in the Labour manifesto is out of line with any progressive socially liberal nation in the 21st century. Sadly we being held back by failed Neocon ideology from the 1980s

I think you'll find lots of Conservative voters keep quiet because they're made to feel like they're terrible human beings by the shouty, sanctimonious Labour voters. I'm not voting Conservative by the way, before any shouty, sanctimonious Labourite tells me I'm a terrible human being.

@PrincessConsuelaBananahamm0ck
Exactly. Well put.

@EmmaOvary

Yes but equally there are women earning ‘decent’ wages who simply can’t afford to have children and are having to wait longer and longer to do it, whilst others have children without consideration for caring/providing for them.

No child should starve- people who are victims of unforeseen circumstances (unplanned pregnancy, redundancy, illness) should absolutely be helped financially... but MN is not the place to argue ‘starving children’ with Tory voters as every other post seems to be from entitled low earners who have had children they knew they couldn’t afford but felt it was their ‘right’ and are now angry that everybody else isn’t putting their children’s needs first!

• We earn over £80k but by the time we’ve had mandatory professional fees, student loans and other basic deductions removed we bring home the same as friends earning half that amount - so no, many ‘high earners’ are not rolling around in disposable income and don’t need to ‘take a look at themselves’

Parents on their third (Planned) child with only one part time wage to support them (actively turning down more hours to ‘maximise’ UC) should take a long hard look at themselves!

@EmmaOvary

^ I can link you to that particular thread if you like. 5 person family choosing to live on one PT wage and angry that their kids go without. Hardly unusual on here either 😬

I think you'll find lots of Conservative voters keep quiet because they're made to feel like they're terrible human beings by the shouty, sanctimonious Labour voters

Quite so. It’s such an ugly look, but unfortunately, many of its shouty proponents spend their time swapping self righteous cliches in an echo chamber and are simply outraged when they discover not everyone subscribes to their failed ideology

The Tory party is not what it was. I have no issue with one-nation Tories - I respect many of them. I have serious issues with hard Brexit loons like IDS, Patel, Gove, Raab and Johnson. I’d happily vote for Ken Clarke, Dominic Grieve, Heidi Allen ... even perhaps Amber Rudd ... but the party has changed and they are not welcome. Brexit has changed the Tory party out of all recognition - it’s a far right party with no regard for business or the union - it’s all for hedge fund managers and de-regulation on steroids. Vote tactically to stop this gaggle of loons masquerading as the Tories - they are not conservative in the original sense of the word.

justanotherlurker
What was that about?
Are you a contender for Pseud's corner?

I think you'll find lots of Conservative voters keep quiet because they're made to feel like they're terrible human beings by the shouty, sanctimonious Labour voters

I agree there are some momentum types who go too far.

But mainly it's about austerity - conservative policies have caused pain and anger and hopelessness. Tory voters have less to get worked up about.