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Are the conservatives really this popular?

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LabourHere · 02/12/2019 20:57

Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad Sad Wine

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TryingAndFailing39 · 04/12/2019 19:47

I’m voting for the Conservative party and so are a lot of people I know.
The conservative voters don’t tend to be as outspoken and brash on social media as the JC worshippers fans. There are obviously more of them than people realise

pinkstripeycat · 04/12/2019 19:48

JamesBlonde1

And I'll just add, because many of the left are aggressive and abusive, the conservative voters just keep quiet about it.

I agree

Camomila · 04/12/2019 19:49

I think the North-South divide is probably a big part of the reason why the country is so divided at the moment.

The issues facing people are completely different in different parts of the country (there are jobs here, schools are good, nhs is ok, but otoh trains, rent and nursery are £££)

user1471448556 · 04/12/2019 19:50

The Tories have just spent a load of money on social media to push their message out in the last week ... and people are lapping it up it seems.

Monsterinmyshoe · 04/12/2019 20:08

Most people I know are definitely not voting Conservative. Either Lib Dem or Labour, and I'm in a Tory stronghold too. Most of the older voters I know who you would think would vote Tory are abstaining.

These boards are full of hard line Tories or Labour supporters try to change your views and should be ignored - just read the manifestos. I started out listening to what people say on here, but now I just laugh at how desperate people are getting at trying to persuade people (very badly). Like the one about housebuilding above and negative equity - the Tories are pledging to build more houses than Labour aren't they (although they probably won't build a single one like last time!)

All the TV programmes going around talking to retired people in the middle of the day when the rest of the world is working, are bound to get Tory or Brexit party vote responses. Gauging public opinion from SM is probably not reliable either. Make your own mind up. Ignore the polls - it's just another means of manipulating the vote. Ignore the crap on here too. Half of the posters probably haven't posted before and are new MNers Hmm

Monsterinmyshoe · 04/12/2019 20:11

Well, OP, have you got an answer? I've been keeping a rough count of the posts here for the Conservatives and Labour, and even allowing for the slight MN left-wing bias, it seems to favour a Tory win on 12 December.

I like your methodology. So only MNer's can vote then? 😂

I rest my case.....

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 04/12/2019 20:15

Not surprised it went unanswered

I do wish Labour would learn something from the Tories and that is it’s better to be in power than sit in opposition and be self righteous because you have stuck to your core political beliefs it benefits no one who votes for you

dinosaurcookie · 04/12/2019 20:32

Yep think they'll win... Watched a report on the BBC earlier and a formerly homeless chap who was at the foodbank was going to vote for Boris. I've given up arguing about it. If people really think Boris and Jacob are going to fight their corner after universal credit and bedroom tax I think they'll be disappointed.

XingMing · 04/12/2019 20:35

Sorry Monster, I have been here for years, posting from a soft centre perspective all the time. I only usually get slated on hard Left dominated threads. I am explicit, I am a one nation Tory of a socially liberal bent, and when I have posted recently, the Momentum bots descend like veloco-raptors to search for blood. I do see the social problems in our cities, and I am sympathetic to the toxic backgrounds, but it eventually boils down to the individual. No government ever has enough money to wipe a soothing curing flannel over all interpersonal crises. I can give every penny I earn to the government, all £700 per month, and I promise you that every government of every political persuasion will piss it up the wall in the pursuit of fluently expressed nonsense. People are born equal, but some are more able than others. I do care that children are housed, fed and educated properly, and if you can't afford to feed and house more than two, I am not prepared to subsidise you. I could afford one.

Bartlet · 04/12/2019 20:37

Agree totally Enthusiasm. I so wish there was a credible force at the top of the Labour Party that I could contemplate voting for. Like many many people in this country, I simply can’t vote for labour whilst JC is leader.

Justanotherlurker · 04/12/2019 20:40

The Tories have just spent a load of money on social media to push their message out in the last week ... and people are lapping it up it seems.

Labour have had paid social media activists for the past few years, even producing a document that gives pointers for starting threads and answering questions.

Lets not pretend it is only one sided, there was a reason MN was in total melt down during the past 3 elections, and it wasn't because people here are more educated or whatever the latest meme is.

BMW6 · 04/12/2019 20:41

Well I only hope it's decisive one way or another (although I'd prefer a Conservative win ATM).

IMO a hung Parliament would be the very worst outcome for the Country as a whole. Bad for business, bad for the economy so bad for those in most need.Something has to break this nearly 3 year deadlock.

John1971 · 04/12/2019 20:41

Not round here. People despise that compusive liar Johnson.
No wonder he’s gone missing in the interviews and debates. His team know that every time he opens his mouth the polls are getting closer and closer.

Justanotherlurker · 04/12/2019 20:55

Not round here. People despise that compusive liar Johnson.
No wonder he’s gone missing in the interviews and debates. His team know that every time he opens his mouth the polls are getting closer and closer.

Point proven, text book response almost word for word

XingMing · 04/12/2019 21:05

JustAnotherLurker, the stats say otherwise. Labour have outspent every other party on social media; Libdems are second, Tories have apparently only spent about 1/3rd of the Libdems.

Gin96 · 04/12/2019 21:09

Can anyone explain why the pound surges when the poll shows Conservative in the lead?

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/04/services-sector-data-fears-further-slump-uk-economy-pmi-brexit

XingMing · 04/12/2019 21:10

The voice of common sense?

Biker47 · 04/12/2019 21:12

A lot of people who vote Conservative keep very quiet about it

None of my friends know who I vote for, and given that I don't engage on their "fuck the Tories" or other hyperbolic facebook posts, they probably think I vote Labour, lol.

I have no time for the "tolerant left" if you dare to have a different viewpoint or opinion to them, quiet life suits me instead. They can of course continue to vote for whoever they like, and I'll not admonish them for it, or call them vile names because of it, would be nice if the same happened in the other direction, but; c'est la vie.

Alsohuman · 04/12/2019 21:20

The £ rises when a majority government looks more likely, it falls when a hung Parliament is possible. It’s about certainty.

dinosaurcookie · 04/12/2019 21:23

@Alsohuman exactly. It doesn't matter who is leading just as long as someone is. The pound has been in continual flux since the brexit vote.

Justanotherlurker · 04/12/2019 21:28

the stats say otherwise. Labour have outspent every other party on social media; Libdems are second, Tories have apparently only spent about 1/3rd of the Libdems.

I think you have me mistaken, I was highlighting the open paid for social media activists for labour and pointing out anyone saying it was just the tories of reading echo chamber propoganda.

CendrillonSings · 04/12/2019 21:30

Can anyone explain why the pound surges when the poll shows Conservative in the lead?

Because it means the far left can’t nationalise the economy.

Elodie2019 · 04/12/2019 21:33

They can of course continue to vote for whoever they like, and I'll not admonish them for it, or call them vile names because of it, would be nice if the same happened in the other direction, but; c'est la vie.

You may not personally attack or seek to discredit the views/opinions/arguments of 'the opposition' but the same cannot be said for the leader (and senior members) of the party you support.
EVERY time they open their mouths.

Justanotherlurker · 04/12/2019 21:36

The £ rises when a majority government looks more likely, it falls when a hung Parliament is possible. It’s about certainty.

That's one line of thinking that muddies the water to the last 3 years of political brexit talk.

The same big multinationals, banks and utilities are also making the same warnings re a labour gov, funnily enough the idiots who treated brexit as a simple left v right issue are not picking up on it though.

The pound going up or down is not a simplistic black and white situation, there are just as many people who would make billions if the pound falls.

It really isn't this simplistic indicator that some like to make out.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/12/2019 21:36

Labour have had paid social media activists for the past few years, even producing a document that gives pointers for starting threads and answering questions

I wasn't aware of that, but it would certainly explain a lot ... and I'd be fascinated to see a copy!! Wink