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Are the conservatives really this popular?

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LabourHere · 02/12/2019 20:57

Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad Sad Wine

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ajandjjmum · 03/12/2019 15:20

Isn't it funny that Tory voters are all selfish bastards, and yet Labour are encouraging people to become selfish bastards with all their free (unfunded) giveaways.

ReadtheSmallPrint · 03/12/2019 15:22

Anyone who is remain is not going to vote for him after all.

Not quite. I voted remain but I will be voting tory this time. I’ll take the uncertainty of a tory Brexit over the chaos of a Corbyn led government any day. I can’t be arsed with any of the scaremongering over No Deal and selling the NHS to Trump before anyone starts - I can counter with plenty of scaremongering about the damage to the economy that Corbyn/McDonnell will cause.

There’s a fundamental fury that a lot of Leave voters are feeling with Labour which is being really underestimated. We have had 3 1/2 years of Labour saying there would be no second referendum and that ‘Leave means Leave’ and the that the result of the referendum would be honoured and now that’s all been undermined since September. There are many who voted Labour in 2017 after voting UKIP in 2015 who feel utterly betrayed.

A lot of these people have spent 3 years being told they were racist, thick and gullible for voting Leave. Now to be told they are racist, thick and gullible for voting tory is a bit like water off a duck’s back.

PBo83 · 03/12/2019 15:22

I admit that I AM a selfish bastard (if you want to call me that). I will vote for the party which I believe is best for myself and the people I care about.

I'm fairly sure that the VAST majority of people choose who to vote for the same way.

ajandjjmum · 03/12/2019 15:24

Me too PBo83 - nothing personal! Flowers

ajandjjmum · 03/12/2019 15:25

Those Tories I know who voted 'Remain' are still voting Tory at this election - they accept the result of the democratic vote, and want to move on so that their businesses and employers are no longer held back by the uncertainty.

Tensixtysix · 03/12/2019 15:29

Boris may be a 'buffoon', but he's likeable. Corbyn is like a creepy uncle that hangs around the buffet table, muttering to himself.
He's too desperate for power, that makes him dangerous!

PBo83 · 03/12/2019 15:30

@ajandjjmum

I know it wasn't I was agreeing with you :)

It's just a strange one that, if you happen to be better off under labour (free stuff for all!!) you get the added bonus of thinking you own the moral high-ground. Personally I believe it is more moral to allow hard-working and enterprising people to keep more of their money rather than 'buy' votes with poorly thought-out schemes (bearing in mind that this includes the creators of jobs).

VirginiaCreeper · 03/12/2019 15:39

Most people don't discuss their voting intentions. I seldom discuss politics on MN because it does seem to reflect what I think of as the "London View", that is middle class, left wing remain voters who believe that anyone who disagrees with them is stupid or wicked.

I live in the North, voted remain and have voted Labour all my life. I was astonished by the referendum result but I think I would vote leave now. As to the GE my vote is never going to Labour while momentum are in charge (JC is just a puppet IMO). I couldn't vote Lib Dm because their policy of revoking Article 50 would succeed in divided this very divided country even more.

Our current Tory MP is a decent guy who's voting record is not always strictly according to party line (sad that I am I have looked at it). I will, for the first time in 40 years of voting , vote Conservative.

My DC who are in their early 20s I fully expected to vote Labour. They both voted remain and Labours freebies are attractive. However it seems they too are not fooled by JC and they will vote LibDem.

Logjam · 03/12/2019 15:40

He's too desperate for power, that makes him dangerous! I agree Boris is quite desperate - he'd do anything to win.

Drabarni · 03/12/2019 15:43

Boris may be a 'buffoon', but he's likeable

It's a sad world when you read comments like this. god bless us all.
We're fucked to trump and Boris the racist misogynist.
I do hope there's no working women voting for him, but if they're that dumb I suppose they deserve to lose their jobs.

ReadtheSmallPrint · 03/12/2019 15:44

Actually, DH and I would be better off (initially) under Labour. The kids would benefit from fee-free university and DH’s regulated rail tickets to London would be cheaper. He earns under 80k so wouldn’t pay any more income tax.

But at what cost? DH’s modest defined contribution pension wouldn’t be looking healthy. That goes for pension funds across the board. Pension fund obligations for private companies could push some into liquidation - it has happened before. Those with public sector pensions generally wouldn’t give a shit about that sort of consideration, but there are an awful lot of people who do.

The resolution foundation has already said that the Labour manifesto offers very little for the ‘working poor’. Any statistical improvement just comes about as a result of making the rich slightly less rich.

Devereux1 · 03/12/2019 15:46

I'm voting conservative.

Note, I'm not voting for the conservatives.
I am voting to get Brexit done. The dreadful uncertainty created by Remain governments trying to fudge making Brexit happen is too damaging to all sections of British society.
I am also voting out of complete fear of a Labour government, and all the damage they will do to society, the terrible debt they will get us into, the awful effect on the economy that we will incur, the crazy policies around self-ID, trans, women's spaces and women's safety, and the completely insane declarations of a man who says he will spend billions of our taxpayer's money on Trident whilst telling the world he would never use it, therefore in one instant second making it completely redundant.

PBo83 · 03/12/2019 15:49

I do hope there's no working women voting for him, but if they're that dumb I suppose they deserve to lose their jobs.

I think that an awful lot of working women (and men) will vote conservative (particularly those earning above-average salaries).

ArseDarkly · 03/12/2019 15:51

I am voting to get Brexit done

Well that's you screwed for a start - when will it ever be 'done'? Perfectly intelligent people have swallowed that stupid soundbite whole and disengaged their brains.

Tensixtysix · 03/12/2019 15:51

LOL! The raving Corbynistas are out in force on MN! God save us from the left wing Nazis!

Waxonwaxoff0 · 03/12/2019 15:56

Tensixtysix Boris, likeable? The man that called gay men "tank top wearing bum boys", black Africans "picanninies with watermelon smiles", and children of single parents as "ill raised, ignorant aggressive and illegitimate."

What on earth is likeable about the man?

JacobReesClunge · 03/12/2019 15:57

I am voting to get Brexit done.

You aren't. You might think you are, but that isn't a thing. It's going to drag on and on and on. The trade deals will take years. And be interminable.

derxa · 03/12/2019 16:05

My DC who are in their early 20s I fully expected to vote Labour. They both voted remain and Labours freebies are attractive. However it seems they too are not fooled by JC and they will vote LibDem.
Similar here. One of my DSs late twenties detests Brexit and I expected him to vote Labour but no - Lib Dem. Corbyn is a liability no matter how many people try and argue for him here. I watch shite TV and caught him on This Morning. Philip Schofield asked him if he would like to apologise for antisemiticism. His snarling rage was something to behold. Imagine getting arsy like that with Holly and Phil Grin

Alsohuman · 03/12/2019 16:11

Those Tories I know who voted 'Remain' are still voting Tory at this election

Not all of them, the one I’m married to is voting LibDem. The fact that he loathes Johnson with every fibre of his being made the decision easier.

CendrillonSings · 03/12/2019 16:11

You aren't. You might think you are, but that isn't a thing. It's going to drag on and on and on. The trade deals will take years. And be interminable.

And I suppose Brexit will get done when Corbyn negotiates his own deal, then campaigns against it in a second divisive referendum in which he will remain “neutral” like the coward he is? Grin

Alsohuman · 03/12/2019 16:16

I wish MN would disable that stupid little grinning face.

GREATAUNT1 · 03/12/2019 16:16

You like Doris The Cock JohnsonShock. You’ll be telling us next that Ian Brady was a lovely bloke.

You have absolutely nothing to worry about OP.

MaxNormal · 03/12/2019 16:16

I find it so strange being called a far left extremist when I'm politically relatively middle of the road. Makes me think that either this thread or the whole country has gone very far right.
Reading things like Johnson being likeable genuinely messes with my sense of reality. He's so odious in so many ways. A racist liar with an open, obvious contempt for vast swathes of the electorate.
And Brexit won't "get done" if we take the hard, Tory option. It'll be a protracted, ugly, massive damaging mess for a long, long time.

CendrillonSings · 03/12/2019 16:20

I wish MN would disable that stupid little grinning face

Why? The election’s going so well for you that you should be using it too, right? Grin

Spamantha · 03/12/2019 16:20

I think people are making a mistake in assuming Boris' homophobia and racism isn't part of his appeal to many.