Are the conservatives really this popular?

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Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad

Johnson is awful but people will still vote for him over Corbyn. I hoped that the Lib Dems would step up but they appear to have been swallowed up by a sinkhole.

I wonder if those rabid Corbynites, who dismiss anyone raising concerns about him as Blairite or Blue Labour, will finally realise what all those Labour supporters have been trying to prevent. When the Tories end up with a huge majority there will be no way to stop the next Universal Credit disaster or Windrush scandal. You can be a pure idealist and spend your time speaking at rallies to those who already agree with everything you say but you’re never going to be in a position to actually do anything about the wrongs you’re highlighting if you don’t blend in some realism and win over those who don’t think exactly the way you do.

JacobReesClunge

So you’re apparently 100% dead-set against racism but at the same time want a party of antisemites to take power.

That doesn’t make much sense!

Other person is a lifetime tory - her dh votes labour - we don't talk politics - I don't like her political views - they lack compassion and generosity. She is a remainer and thinks BJ is a complete twat so she must be very conflicted.

I've been wondering how pro-Remain Tories are going to vote. Will they sacrifice EU membership for a Tory government, or does the EU trump being a Tory? My leave-voting, Labour supporting MIL is till voting Labour and accepts that, should there be a miracle and a Labour government or coalition, the country might vote remain.

I find it inconceivable that anyone who's not an out-and-out fascist is thinking of voting Tory but, having spent the last 12 years working in homelessness prevention and welfare rights, I know better than most the devastating impact of Tory cuts on the most vulnerable in society.

Every week brings yet another heartbreaking case and I know all too well that the remedies that were available until 2010 have now all but been abolished or cut to the point where they might as well have been.

Thankfully, I can retire in another 18 months and then I can get myself some rose-tinted glasses, stick my fingers in my ears and sing "la la la" and pretend this shit isn't really happening.

So you’re apparently 100% dead-set against racism but at the same time want a party of antisemites to take power.

As a Labour party member, who has fought against every form of racism for all their adult life, I find it very offensive to be called an anti-semite.

Of course there are anti-semites in the Labour party. It has a membership in excess of half a million people. I doubt if there are any groups of similar size that don't include the odd anti-semite, Islamophobe, racist etc.

At least the Labour leader is capable of avoiding making racist and sexist comments, unlike the the buffoon that took over from May.

Where have I said which party I want in government centrillion?

You clearly assume I'm a Labour supporter and think the only people who raise concerns about the Tory record on anti-Semitism want Corbyn as PM. That attitude is in itself indicative of the problem our society faces. Far too many people only see or acknowledge anti-Semitism when it's coming from people who hold different political views to them, and think anyone suggesting their party or part of the spectrum might have a problem is speaking in bad faith.

I hoped that the Lib Dems would step up but they appear to have been swallowed up by a sinkhole.

They also chose an awful unelectable leader.

I'm in a leftwing bubble...live in the north west and I know very very few Tories (well I think there's a few but they never admit it). I'll be voting labour all the way . But the Tories will get in for sure :(

Piccaninnies. Watermelon smiles. An almost Nigerian interest in money. All Johnson lines.

"Looking like letter boxes" of women in traditional Islamic dress. And let's not forget the homophobia of his "tank-topped bumboys".

Yes. Britain is a fundamentally right-wing country.

Sorry, ENGLAND. No offence to Scotland or Wales.

He demonstrated against Apartheid when he was younger. So did Peter Hain
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hain
Why are the current Labour shadow cabinet so far from people like him?

Peter Hain destroyed his reputation with many in Labour by backing up Blair over Iraq, to the point that he came across as a complete stooge.

It was only when Labour ditched Clause IV in the 90s that they became electable. Corbyn & Co have such short memories.

I don't think it's Corbyn that has a short memory @Limer. Labour won 4 elections in the 60s and 70s with the left-wing Harold Wilson as leader. (Well, he'd be regarded as left-wing now, that was mainstream social democracy then, as it still is in most of Europe).

Although perhaps you're too young to remember anything from more than 30 years ago, in which case learning some history might help.

I don't mind admitting that the 'silent majority' scare the shit out of me. I'm always hearing about how they hate Jews, LGBT people, BME people etc. Makes me glad I don't wear a Magen David anymore.

I live in a very safe conservative seat.

But even my (usually) labour-voting friends and colleagues are voting conservative this time.

@CendrillonSings Fuck off. You're a Tory, your party has Jacob Rees-Mogg who spouts anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and two of your councillors got suspended for Holocaust denial. Don't you dare act like Labour are the only party with a problem.

Peter Hain destroyed his reputation with many in Labour by backing up Blair over Iraq, to the point that he came across as a complete stooge.
Still his work on apartheid was brilliant.
What has Jeremy Corbyn actually done? He did vote against the Iraq War which I applaud him for. But what has he actually achieved?

with the left-wing Harold Wilson as leader. Corbyn isn't fit to shine Wilson's shoes. Wilson won two elections.

Labour’s antisemitism is so virulent that they are the only political party ever to be formally investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission - except for the BNP!

Do you know what proportion of Labour party members have been accused of anti-semitism, @CendrillonSings? Approx 0.1%. I'd be surprised if levels of anti-semitism among the population as a whole were significantly less than that.

The internal process for dealing with such allegations has been cumbersome and slow, but part of that is down to the length of time it takes to change the rule book in a party that has a structure where grassroots members have input at every stage of decision making. It makes it a slow old business. Until very recently, the disciplinary mechanism was virtually unchanged since the days that Militant members were expelled. Hopefully, the new procedures, when in place, will be more robust and swift.

Makes me glad I don't wear a Magen David anymore.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Whatever happens next week, I hope, perhaps forlornly, that you still feel you can live happily and safely here.

@derxa: check your history. Wilson won in '64, '66, and twice in '74 (Feb and October, iirc).

I delivered Labour Party leaflets in 1964, aged 8. I remember it well! And 1974 was the first GE I was old enough to vote in.

Anyone voting tories should hang their head in shame. Voting for the end of the nhs, more homelessness and more child poverty. What a great future ahead

JacobReesClunge

Where have I said which party I want in government centrillion?

Your username does rather give the game away to anyone with a modicum of critical thought!

I delivered Labour Party leaflets in 1964, aged 8. I remember it well! And 1974 was the first GE I was old enough to vote in.

Then you should also remember that 1974 was the last time Labour won a General Election on a socialist platform - 45 years ago!

Does that tell you anything?

@derxa: check your history. Wilson won in '64, '66, and twice in '74 (Feb and October, iirc). I have checked and you're right. Hopefully that's 4 more than Corbyn

Don't you dare act like Labour are the only party with a problem.

Labour are the only party whose virulent racism has ever had to be formally investigated by the EHRC, except for the BNP. Nice company Labour’s keeping under Corbyn!

Sorry you don’t like facts.