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Are the conservatives really this popular?

999 replies

LabourHere · 02/12/2019 20:57

Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad Sad Wine

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JacobReesClunge · 03/12/2019 12:17

Labour’s antisemitism is so virulent that they are the only political party ever to be formally investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission - except for the BNP!

You go right ahead with your own whataboutery, but there’s no getting around that devastating fact.

^www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/107203/fears-labour-could-‘be-left-bankrupt’-over^

Once again, can you tell us how Labour's problem means the Conservatives are a good choice for someone who's concerned about anti-Semitism?

RuffleCrow · 03/12/2019 12:18

They're very, very quiet most tory voters.

I would be too - it's hardly something to be proud about. They don't put up posters. They don't go out canvassing for their chosen candidate. They don't tell anyone who isn't already a close friend or relative. They just go and put a cross in a box one thursday, go home and count their money

wherearemymarbles · 03/12/2019 12:20

The last 2 elections were Labour’s for the taking.
Except the idiotic unions live in the past and cling to the idea the average British citizen is a socialist. They are not.
Which is why the conservatives will get in - they are for a lot of people the least worst option.

I have voted Labour in the past but will never vote Corbyn and nor did i vote for the Milliband fool.

derxa · 03/12/2019 12:28

They're very, very quiet most tory voters. Well I'm not. I've voted Tory in the past. Maybe not this time. Might be better off voting Labour seeing as I'm a WASPI woman and might want reduced rail fares and I don't want Brexit.
I don't want to inflict fucking Corbyn on the country

CendrillonSings · 03/12/2019 12:28

Once again, can you tell us how Labour's problem means the Conservatives are a good choice for someone who's concerned about anti-Semitism?

Because only the Conservatives can defeat Labour and keep their antisemitism from spreading to the entire Government? It’s pretty obvious.

mummmy2017 · 03/12/2019 12:32

Funny we were talking about voting the other day, used to see loads of vote this or that posters in Windows, seem none this election.

HeyMissyYouSoFine · 03/12/2019 12:35

There's a really strong conservative candiate where I am - he's done a lot locally - I can't bring myslef to vote for him because of the national party and his support of Brexit - but I'm odd one out as there was a majority for leave here.

But then I can't bring myself to vote labour either - national labour party is awful and the local people don't seem great either. I'm also worried if they do well at election they won't change going forward.

Third party down last vote was UKIP - and I don't know where those people are going.

It's the forth party in last vote I can vote for and they don't stand a chance of getting in. I don't agree with everything they're for either.

So I'm less suprised it's less them doing well - than them doing less bad than labour and other main parties.

Drabarni · 03/12/2019 12:36

I don't know any thank God, but they tend to keep it to themselves out of shame.

Nonnymum · 03/12/2019 12:37

I don't understand why, given their terrible leader but it seems whatever they say or do people will vote for them. I don't know anyone who will but plentybwill apparantly. I worry about the next 5 years. It's going to be horrible.

HeyMissyYouSoFine · 03/12/2019 12:38

they don't go out canvassing for their chosen candidate.

So far Tories are the only ones who've knocked on my front door - I've only seen a few posters up - all labour they do win this seat though the majority keeps going down and isn't huge.

Drabarni · 03/12/2019 12:39

cendrillon

And we should just forget about the more prevalent racist opinions of conservative.
It's a shame so many fell for the propaganda, especially in this day and age with so much more knowledge.
I'm part Jewish, but not rich and conservative so I go by what i see not what a tory media tells me. especially a jewish tory media.

Nonnymum · 03/12/2019 12:42

:28CendrillonSings what about Islamaohobia* and the racism displayed by Johnson? He has publicly said racist things. I think Jeremy Corbyn has handled the situation very badly but I don't think he is racist at all. He demonstrated against Apartheid when he was younger.

JacobReesClunge · 03/12/2019 12:43

How will a Conservative government, one newly led by a man that is in bed with the extreme right wing, prevent their own issues with anti-Semitism from causing detriment to British Jews centrillion?

Sparklfairy · 03/12/2019 12:47

I did see yesterday that if you put a tenner on labour winning you'd win £130 if it happens.

Do the same for conservatives and you get £10.50 Shock those are pretty clear odds.

JacobReesClunge · 03/12/2019 12:48

Lol. Well Labour aren't going to win, that's for sure. The question is whether the Tories can get enough seats for a majority. They're bound to be the party with the most votes and most seats.

Symptomless · 03/12/2019 12:50

Talk to most tory voters and all they come back with are lies from the media.

ajandjjmum · 03/12/2019 12:51

What racist things has Boris Johnson said Nonnymum?

Hingeandbracket · 03/12/2019 12:52

those are pretty clear odds
Yes they are. But bookies don’t always get it right any more than opinion polls.

Breathlessness · 03/12/2019 12:53

Bookies have more at stake if they get it drastically wrong Grin

yasle · 03/12/2019 12:55

This election could have been an easy win for labour. The conservatives could not have fucked Brexit up any more spectacularly. The thing killing it for labour is Jeremy Corbyn. My fil has voted labour his whole life but refuses to vote for JC. My df is a floating voter and will not vote for JC. He has voted labour and conservative in the past. JC refused to go when scores of his own MPs tried to get him to go. Therefore he's fucked it for his party and he is the only person to blame for this.

JacobReesClunge · 03/12/2019 12:55

Piccaninnies. Watermelon smiles. An almost Nigerian interest in money. All Johnson lines.

AgeLikeWine · 03/12/2019 12:57

@yasle

Spot on.

Sparklfairy · 03/12/2019 12:59

those are pretty clear odds
Yes they are. But bookies don’t always get it right any more than opinion polls.

Totally agree, however I would expect it to be a closer call odds wise than that if they were anything other than pretty damn sure of the outcome. As pp said, they have more to lose.

derxa · 03/12/2019 13:03

He demonstrated against Apartheid when he was younger. So did Peter Hain
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hain
Why are the current Labour shadow cabinet so far from people like him?