How anyone can vote Tory?

[Stella8686]

After seeing some pro labour and pro conservatives posts recently I am genuinely interested to see what makes someone vote conservative

OTHER THAN

1. Hard/ quick Brexit
2. Looking after your own finances
3. Hatred for Labour/ Corbyn

ABIU to not be able to think of any single other reason to vote conservative?

I don’t think that is a fair reflection of what Alsohuman is saying.

I live in a safe Tory seat, yet I only know one Tory voter. Hmm.

Labour supporters tend to be more vocal (my FB feed is full of the same people, saying the same things) and also quite aggressive / abusive towards those who disagree with them, in my experience. The “quiet Tories” won the last election and are likely to win again. DP thinks it’s because Tory voters are too busy working and paying taxes to spend their days posting on FB, whereas labour voters have more time on their hands.

Wtf did I just read!?

@Mackerz
What a load of rubbish. Tories are not the only ones who pay taxes, though you wouldn't know it from the way they martyr themselves over it. I mean, the only reason I have the time to moan on here is that I've just started mat leave and I'm unused to not working.
As an aside, if anyone has a time machine so I can speed this baby along, I'd appreciate it.

Don't know if I'll be voting Tory but I definitely won't be voting Labour this time after always voting for Labour.

@Bluebutterfly90

Then you may be in for a surprise after the election.

Quiet Tories are not a new phenomenon.

@Mackerz
Never said they were, just said they're not quiet because they're too busy paying taxes, as that's ridiculous.

I guess the answer is that Tory voters could not give a shit about child poverty, families struggling to eat, the NHS up for grabs, a government full of incompetent, callous liars hell-bent on sending this country back to the dark ages etc etc ...

Without exaggeration, the thought of the Conservatives making decisions that will affect my kids' future keeps me awake at night.

I will not be voting for a party that I can truly get behind, but I am voting to get this current government of psychopaths out.

There are some real skidmarks in society out there, and it’s not those claiming benefits or using food banks. One bout of ill health, death of a partner, redundancy... you could be on the breadline and needing help like some people out there. Those saying they don’t care that kids will starve ... take a look at yourself man it’s psychotic!

Go to Polling Station
Get Ballot Paper
Identify Conservative candidate
Place X in box by their name

Simples

I guess the answer is that Tory voters could not give a shit about child poverty, families struggling to eat, the NHS up for grabs, a government full of incompetent, callous liars hell-bent on sending this country back to the dark ages etc etc ...

But that’s no more true than some of the vile rhetoric upthread. Let’s have some nuance here.

Very very easy to vote Conservative.

It means believing in the individual having the agency to run their own lives better,
more community
the least state intervention
low taxes

BUT looking after your weakest and most vulnerable.

So its very easy.

What do you mean by 'more community' Screaming ?
More volunteering? Charitable giving etc?

I don't feel the country as a whole is very cohesive/welcoming right now, but am biased as an EU citizen!

All the Tories going 'just go to the polling station and do an x in the box lol', confirming that they are the compassion-free zones we suspected all along ...

confirming that they are the compassion-free zones we suspected all along ...

I don't understand this rhetoric of a Tory vote demonstrating a lack of compassion. Are we to believe that Labour are a genuinely compassionate party or that those who vote for labour are any more compassionate? Surely the VAST majority of people vote for what's best for them and those closest to them.

“Compassion” is used as a one-word replacement for argument by those who don’t know how to formulate one...

Says the sound bite and grinning face queen.

I don't understand this rhetoric of a Tory vote demonstrating a lack of compassion.

I have seen a number of ‘wind up’ posts from people saying “I pay enough tax already. I don’t want to pay any more”.

Both types of comments are equally idiotic.

I have seen a number of ‘wind up’ posts from people saying “I pay enough tax already. I don’t want to pay any more”

I'm not sure that would be a wind up. I DO pay a lot of tax already and I DON'T want to pay any more. I don't object in principle to higher taxes but I don't approve of them going to pay for Labour's vote-buying 'free stuff for everyone' schemes.

I have seen a number of ‘wind up’ posts from people saying “I pay enough tax already. I don’t want to pay any more”.

How on earth is that a wind up? The level of taxation is one of the major policy positions on which people vote. I certainly don't want to pay any more, let alone be crushed by the 83 billion in extra direct taxes that Labour themselves admit they want to impose on us.

How on earth is that a wind up?

It’s a wind up because this is leftie MN where all tory threads have a fair spattering of comments about how selfish and self-interested tory voters are and how all they want to do is count their copious quantities of cash. A single, unqualified statement about not wanting to pay an more tax is just adding petrol to the flames.

I’m a tory voter BTW.

@ReadtheSmallPrint, I can cope with people saying they don’t want to pay more tax, in reality do any of us? What I really can’t deal with is people describing poverty as a “lifestyle choice” or happily asserting they don’t care that 4 million children live in poverty which is apparently their parents’ fault. Or even trying to deny that there are poor people at all. That really sticks in my craw. I do accept that isn’t the view of everyone voting Tory.

bangs on I think we should ALL pay more tax, every single tax payer. We'd have so much money if we did that! Everyone bleats on about Sweden and the healthcare model which we could also emulate if we ALL paid more tax.

@Trewser
I think we should ALL pay more tax, every single tax payer. We'd have so much money if we did that!

How much more? How much does the NHS need, for example IYO?

@MikeUniformMike