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to be furious at my children being described like this

254 replies

spacepyramid · 28/11/2019 20:49

Apparently they are 'ill-raised, ignorant and aggressive' because I am a single parent.

All I can say is I am extremely proud of them for overcoming my apparent short comings as a parent and achieving so much despite it.

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chomalungma · 29/11/2019 19:34

To those posters who think this is an orchestrated campaign..

Afraid not - this is posters reading the news and posting about it.

StarClaws · 29/11/2019 19:35

Agree susieowl but unfortunately some are so blinded and frothing at the mouth at the prospect of Boris getting into power that they can’t control their anger

To be fair, there was this one to balance it out:

Yes, actually I dare say it and while no-one is a plaster saint, the racist and slippy Corbyn could easily give Cunt Master Classes as there is no bigger cunt than he

I could be generous and say he is a gormless cunt but alas, although it's true he would lose a brightness contest to a 10 watt bulb, I fear he is more than that. He is a nasty, lying, sanctimonious, self-serving cunt

Shock Hmm

mathanxiety · 29/11/2019 19:39

Maybe some are just personally hurt by those very scathing remarks, Livelovenehappy. Maybe many are single mothers themselves, doing a great job, or the children of single mothers.

Or maybe it angers them that the Prime Minister from the party that ushered in Universal Credit and all those austerity budgets really does think the less well off are scum.

There is a long and honorable British political tradition of freedom to scrutinise a candidate's record, and freedom to express feelings on political candidates. Maybe you are not aware of it?

roundturnandtwohalfhitches · 29/11/2019 19:40

I doubt he meant it. Because he pretty much means nothing he says. He will say anything if he thinks it panders to whoever his audience is and get him somewhere. He cares about no one but himself. That's what makes him so offensive. And so untrustworthy.

AlternativePerspective · 29/11/2019 19:45

I have no intentions of voting for the man, but iirc isn’t this a quote he made back in 1994 which is now being re-hashed to make it sound as if it was said more recently?

I can’t stand either Johnson or Corbin, but I do think the way this story has been manipulated is scraping the barrel.

chomalungma · 29/11/2019 19:47

I have no intentions of voting for the man, but iirc isn’t this a quote he made back in 1994 which is now being re-hashed to make it sound as if it was said more recent

It's a quote from the person who is our PM.
Maybe he's changed?

Torchlightt · 29/11/2019 19:52

There's no reason to think he's changed his opinion. If he had, I suspect that he would have written about it.

AlternativePerspective · 29/11/2019 19:52

It’s a quote from 25 years ago from the man who is our PM now. That’s not the same as saying it’s a quote from the PM. It isn’t.

Perhaps he does still think the same, who knows. But for people were probably children or possibly not even born at the time it was said to get personally offended by it As if it was said yesterday is ridiculous.

Torchlightt · 29/11/2019 19:53

My own illegitimate, has no father figure DC has an interview to Oxbridge next month.

chomalungma · 29/11/2019 19:54

But for people were probably children or possibly not even born at the time it was said to get personally offended by it As if it was said yesterday is ridiculous

Something doesn't have to be said personally about you for it to offend and upset you...

StarClaws · 29/11/2019 19:57

Yeah I mean, how long ago he said it actually IS kind of irrelevant. Because the bottom line is, this quote is no different from the things he still says and does to this day. It doesn't shed any new light on the man. We all know he's a pompous toff with little regard for anyone he sees as below him. Either you already dislike him, or you already overlook his numerous character flaws because you like his buffoon persona or the party he leads. Nothing's gonna change that at this point.

Donald Trump famously said "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose any voters", and I suspect the same is true of Boris Johnson.

chomalungma · 29/11/2019 19:58

People with platforms like Boris had as a journalist and now as the PM are responsible for helping to 'other' people and for reinforcing hate and divide.

I remember the nasty party of the Tories back in the 80s and the demonisation of single mothers.

For single mothers, you can add immigrants, Muslims, LGBT people, feminists, poor people, people on benefits......

All the subject of public debate, columns and opinion pieces etc.

Torchlightt · 29/11/2019 19:59

Of course it doesn't have to be said about specific children!! So it's ok to say that working class men are feckless bastards, because you weren't directing that comment specifically at every single working class man in the country, whom you had met on an individual basis?

Torchlightt · 29/11/2019 20:00

He's very much the male Katie Hopkins, isn't he?

Tiredemma · 29/11/2019 20:02

He's a piece of shit. Blabbering away incoherently

chomalungma · 29/11/2019 20:02

I wonder what would happen if Boris Johnson got pissed and just started saying it 'how it is'

Torchlightt · 29/11/2019 20:04

If you were a journalist and a politician with unlimited opportunities to write articles in the national press / to give interviews and you had changed your mind about all working class men and single mums being scum, which you had written about in the national press a few years previously, do you really not think that you'd want to let people know? To undo some of the damage? He hasn't changed his mind. He's a If you're not posh and rich you're a piece of dirt kind of person.

MeganBacon · 29/11/2019 20:05

I've also raised a child without being married to his father and without ever taking a penny from said father. I did later marry someone else but that's by the by. I won't list ds's achievements here but any parent would be very proud of him. I can't be bothered being offended about that statement because it's just so far from the truth that it can't even be taken seriously.

DBML · 29/11/2019 20:10

In 1995 that was pretty much everyone’s view, including mine at 15 as I often heard my family members saying the same.

24 years on and I know plenty of wonderful single mothers, with the nicest politest children you could wish to meet. I also know some equally wonderful single dads.

Sadly, I also know a few dads who buggered off and left mum to struggle, resulting in mums who’ve allowed the iPad to babysit the kids and they behave quite badly. I also know some married parents who’ve done exactly the same and whose children are positively feral.

So I guess there are good and bad parents no matter the background and I’ve come to ‘learn’ this over the years. For that reason I would pay no mind to 25 year old opinions.

DBML · 29/11/2019 20:19

@Scarriff

Quite. And when independent schools go, all of the rich people will move to the best catchment areas, causing house prices to soar.
And when private healthcare goes, more pressure will be placed on the NHS.

The more people who can pay for private the better in my opinion.

Devereux1 · 29/11/2019 20:19

220 messages and I still haven't read one clear explanation of why someone outraged by this article is outraged.

Can anyone answer why?

The80sweregreat · 29/11/2019 20:20

Thistle, I was making the point that people will read the right wing press and label J C a ' terrorist sympathiser'
I know he isn't. Others believe Facebook and the daily mail.
That's why he won't be elected on the 12December.

salsmum · 29/11/2019 20:21

Erm... this is coming from an ignorant idiot who despite being raised by 2 parents nine of them taught him how to comb his hair! Angry

Lincolnfield · 29/11/2019 20:39

I was a single parent because my beloved husband died of leukaemia when my son was 18 months old. Not a situation I could really do much about. My ‘ill raised, ignorant and aggressive’ son is now a Queen’s Council Barrister and an absolutely lovely man as well!

Rosebel · 29/11/2019 20:46

Torchlight there is no point in BJ saying he no longer believes that because if he does people will say he's only saying that to win cotes.
It's a case of damed if you do and damed if you don't