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to be furious at my children being described like this

254 replies

spacepyramid · 28/11/2019 20:49

Apparently they are 'ill-raised, ignorant and aggressive' because I am a single parent.

All I can say is I am extremely proud of them for overcoming my apparent short comings as a parent and achieving so much despite it.

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raskolnikova · 28/11/2019 23:14

He only became PM because MPs decided to go against the democratic vote, made by the people.

Which decision are you referring to there? Are you referring to the events in Parliament this autumn, which happened when he was already PM, or are you referring to the times when Parliament voted against Theresa May's deal, which Boris Johnson himself also voted against?

Beveren · 28/11/2019 23:17

Unfortunately he's hardly an advertisement for the benefits of being brought up by married parents, unless he attributes his lying, bigotry and rampant unfaithfulness to his parents splitting up when he was 15.

Louise91417 · 28/11/2019 23:19

You would think to read this thread he had rapped your door, looked you in the eye,delivered this opinion whilst pointing at your kids! I work,am a single parent,had a dead beat ex who milked the government, doesnt provide for his dc and all because he suffers from bone fucking idleness! So im with bj on that element of his comment!

SantasLittleHelper2019 · 28/11/2019 23:20

Of course now he is divorcing his own (recognized) children will also be the children of a single mother! He is a vile awful man.

Leflic · 28/11/2019 23:28

This was from 25 years ago? When he was paid to write opinion pieces Perspective.

instagramwilleatitself · 28/11/2019 23:34

Boris bashing? FFS! It's his own trademark fucking over-ornate, look-at-me-using-long-words-because-I'm-so-clever, self indulgent, kicking down bullshit. Let it rise to the surface. The fact that some of you don't like it is precisely because you'd rather forget that to be able to vote that cunt in on the pretence that's he's lesser evil and this doesn't let you forget. Good.

SusieOwl4 · 28/11/2019 23:51

Don’t agree with the comment about children but it’s quite amusing really because most posts on here are about exactly those type of men . There seem to be an abundance of them and the hallowed cry of LTB.

Also I do agree with one thing , you have to read his complete more recent articles in their entirety and not just pick out snippets, which is the popular thing to do .

As far as I am concerned, and I have met him , he is the lesser of two evils .

SusieOwl4 · 28/11/2019 23:55

@tolleshunt , I don’t think you have any idea of the damage that this delay on Brexit has done to business , it is severe and I can totally see why some remainers would vote Tory , because they respect the vote and just want it over and done with now . Plus they don’t want to see the country bankrupt by a crackpot who can’t even add up

StarClaws · 29/11/2019 00:09

It's amazing the things people will defend someone for just because of politics. Like all the women who defended Trump after the "grab her by the pussy" tape came out.

Look, it's ok to agree with someones politics/vote for their party and still admit when they do or say something wrong!

fligglepige · 29/11/2019 00:22

He's a fat lump of lard who despises every one of us.

cannycat20 · 29/11/2019 00:27

"How anybody can have an Oxford degree and remain so thick is beyond me."

Think you might be mistaking the ability to acquire academic qualifications (not helped in any way whatsoever by private/public school education and/or private one-to-one tutoring) with actual intelligence or common sense.

I'm still trying to work out why (some) people think he's an appropriate personage to be PM and cannot see through him.

Mjlp · 29/11/2019 00:27

To be honest it doesn't surprise me at all he said something like this. It's tory mentality. This is the type of thing David Cameron said/implied about single mothers in his propaganda to get people to support benefit changes, which have plummeted thousands of children into poverty and misery.

Mahatma Gandhi: The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.

KnowBetterDoBetter · 29/11/2019 00:56

*You need to explain your point . Not wishing to deflect, but watching a thread with amusement and responding are two very different things.

I've no desire to stick up for Boris, although I will vote for him, why should I deflect?. I don't care enough, as said it's the same hard left posters on each of these threads all saying the same shit to each other and agreeing with each other. Every time.*

Pot, kettle Bluntness Grin I never usually notice usernames but I've seen yours pop up very regularly on multiple Boris fangirl threads over the past couple of weeks.

KnowBetterDoBetter · 29/11/2019 00:58

You would think to read this thread he had rapped your door, looked you in the eye,delivered this opinion whilst pointing at your kids! I work,am a single parent,had a dead beat ex who milked the government, doesnt provide for his dc and all because he suffers from bone fucking idleness! So im with bj on that element of his comment!

And what about him labelling your children ignorant, aggressive and ill-raised? He's really not calling out absent fathers (of which he is one). He's demonising you. And your kids.

CrossingTheAlpsInOtley · 29/11/2019 00:59

It is 25 years old!

These threads-and I'd be astonished if they weren't set up by those with a vested interest-are really becoming quite tedious and, dare I say it, more and more desperate as time goes on.

Yes, actually I dare say it and while no-one is a plaster saint, the racist and slippy Corbyn could easily give Cunt Master Classes as there is no bigger cunt than he.

I could be generous and say he is a gormless cunt but alas, although it's true he would lose a brightness contest to a 10 watt bulb, I fear he is more than that. He is a nasty, lying, sanctimonious, self-serving cunt.

StarClaws · 29/11/2019 01:03

Well that escalated quickly.

Stooshie8 · 29/11/2019 05:46

I think you have self esteem issues OP.
To be stressed over some random comment by a wanker and take it as a personal diatribe against your DC suggests you are not as confident the DM you think you are.
My DCs are great - I would genuinely shrug off any twattish comment by anyone.

Deathgrip · 29/11/2019 06:27

Oh here we go, find a quote written years ago like you could on any other leader and cry like a baby.

The irony of this statement, when the media have spent the last three years criticising Corbyn for things he (mostly allegedly) said / did over the last 35 years. Quite a few of those misrepresentations keep popping up on these threads as fact.

Here’s our PM in his own words, which he committed to writing and had published. We’re supoosed to ignore it because it happened when he was in his 30s not his 50s?

The Tories can dish it out but they really can’t take it, apparently.

Tolleshunt · 29/11/2019 07:07

@tolleshunt , I don’t think you have any idea of the damage that this delay on Brexit has done to business , it is severe

Eh? I don’t get how you extrapolated that from what I wrote. I do understand the enormous financial hit that business, and the country, have suffered since the incredibly ill-advised referendum was held. I have good reason to understand that, unfortunately. It was utter folly to start down this path in the first place. The economic hit was the first thing I thought of when the referendum was announced. When in a hole, though, one should stop digging.

and I can totally see why some remainers would vote Tory , because they respect the vote and just want it over and done with now . Plus they don’t want to see the country bankrupt by a crackpot who can’t even add up

I understand some voters may still not realise the enormous damage that is yet to to be done to the country economically if we leave the EU. I do get that some people feel that the impact on voters’ conception of our ‘democracy’ is of more importance than the seismic economic blow we will suffer when we leave.

I don’t personally agree with that, in a mature democracy you should be able to be straight with voters, and explain that, having now had a chance to scope out the mechanics of leaving, we can now see it is in fact a very, very bad idea. It should be possible to have an adult conversation about the corruption brought to bear in the advisory referendum, and explain why it is void and should be rerun or abandoned. Sadly, our political system is not very adult, and large sections of the public appear to be treating Brexit as an emotional issue, and seem very wedded to an idea of ‘winning and losing’, almost as though their favourite football team won the championship and now somebody wants to take it away from them.

The problem in the UK is the media, the tribal nature of our political system and, dare I say it, the education/ignorance of Joe Public, especially when it comes to actual facts (rather than media-created fantasy) about the EU, and how it benefits us. And the level of knowledge of macroeconomics is extremely low amongst voters, sadly.

Also, I’m not sure our democracy can be held in much lower regard than it is now anyway - and worries about damaging it do not bother Boris when it suits. He was quite happy to lie about prorogation to get his own way, despite the damage to democracy. This is just one example. These concerns do not stop the Tories when they want something.

But, in any case, what I was talking about is that I have heard people in my constituency opting to vote Tory, yet still wanting to stop Brexit. This is madness. I will repeat - Corbyn is not the only alternative. The Lib Dems, as far as I am concerned, are a much more attractive proposition to Labour at the moment. While they may well not win the election outright, they could well hold the balance in a hung parliament and be the means of injecting some sanity into this crazy Brexit process.

We have Nicola Horlick challenging the Tory incumbent in my constituency. Despite 70% of the constituency voting to remain, our MP has done his best to get Brexit through. I thoroughly hope he gets kicked out on 12th.

WallyWallyWally · 29/11/2019 07:12

I agree with all of you on this thread who say this, and other comments by Johnson, are utterly outrageous and offensive.

Unfortunately I also believe that many, many people living in the UK agree with a lot of what he says - and that’s why it doesn’t affect the polls, and it won’t stop people voting for him. My Daily Mail-reading PIL swallow this kind of guff all the time.

custardbear · 29/11/2019 07:48

BJ himself must have been raised by a single parent then as this is him all over (arsehole too!)

PuffinDodger · 29/11/2019 07:51

Don't think BJ was raised by either parent. He was chucked in an abusive boarding school at a young age and look what it's produced!

spacepyramid · 29/11/2019 07:52

And yet you replied

You need to explain your point

You claim the thread is an echo chamber. You replied, thus making it not an echo chamber - as did others.

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Keepyoursockson · 29/11/2019 08:26

For those posters defending Boris and deflecting from his malodorous rhetoric, I’m not pro Corbyn and will not be voting for him as I consider him incompetent.
Boris, however, I consider an unmitigated cunt. So I won’t be voting for that shit show either.

SaskiaRembrandt · 29/11/2019 08:49

It doesn't matter if Johnson's comments apply to any specific single parent and their children. His 'letterbox' comments weren't aimed at an individual muslim woman but they were still obnoxious.

The fact is comments such as these influence both government policy and public opinion. The last time we had a Tory government which demonised single parents this was reflected in policy and public attitudes. The same will happen this time, so no matter how responsible a single parent is, they will still be negatively affected.

The same is true of his comments about working class - very easy to dismiss their issues and sideline them into an underclass if you have convinced enough people that they are feckless criminals.

And this isn't hypothetical, this has been Tory policy.

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