To be glad the latest polls are saying the tories will get a good majority

[Craft74]

Such a relief for all of us especially for our children who would have been saddled with our debt under Corbyn’s plan

Well, this is what I found, which contradicts what you say @EnthusiasmDisturbed.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/17/jeremy-corbyn-allow-shoot-to-kill-exceptional-circumstances

Tories are showing desperation again, not surprising given their lack of ideas or policies. Corbyn has clearly said that he does allow shoot to kill in extreme circumstances.

I'm looking for somewhere to drop this in for light relief too. newsthump.com/2019/11/26/tories-pledge-to-roll-back-labours-disastrous-ten-years-of-austerity/

Have you seen him interviewed on this subject ?

He was clear that he opposed shoot to kill unless there was an absolute threat (as in armed gun men/women who have proven they are armed)

Armed police can not take a risk at times on what is a perceived threat

Have you seen him interviewed on this subject ?

No I haven’t and, as you’re steadfastly refusing to provide me with a link, I’m not likely to.

Not a Tory

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I haven’t refused anything and I don’t have the power to stop you from searching

It’s on google his interview a few days after the Paris attacks - he was highly criticised at the time

McDonnell and MI5/Armed Police is out there too if you wish to look

You don’t understand how this works, do you? It’s not up to me to search for evidence to support your argument, that’s your job. Until you supply me with a link, I’ll assume that evidence doesn’t exist.

RicePuffs
Attached is a letter written by over 100 economists to the Financial Times week arguing why Corbyn’s economic plan has a good chance of working.

Two of the three leading signatories in your link are aged 79 and 83 (the other is aged 67) - seems ironic that the over 65s have been blamed for voting the wrong way in the referendum.

Wft are you talking about

Look or don’t look it’s out there

Other people have seen/read it and disagree with Corbyn’s stance

For someone I assume has an interest in politics and Corbyn I’m surprised you are not aware of this

Two of the three leading signatories in your link are aged 79 and 83 (the other is aged 67) - seems ironic that the over 65s have been blamed for voting the wrong way in the referendum

What’s the relevance of their ages? That’s the most illogical post I’ve ever seen - and there have been some corkers.

YABU - child poverty will rise, public services will continue to be under-resourced, the NHS will be screwed.

The Tories have had ten years and in that time austerity has crippled Britain. There are kids at my son's school who are coming to school hungry and cold.

Corbyn is not my ideal Prime Minister by a long chalk but frankly I'd rather my chances with Labour than stomach another 5 years of Tories.

@Craft74

Your kids are fucked either way.

We are already borrowed to the hilt and Boris brexit plan is bollocks. And will bankrupt us. That along side the US Pharma getting let loose on the NHS.

Not sure how any one can vote for either BlowJob or Corbyn.

We’re fucked either way.

Yes, I've also said that that 2015 news story was miraculously unearthed last night and shoved on the current page of the BBC.

It says bundles that someone who says he doesn't want to see a war on the streets is twisted into someone who will never defend at need. None of us want to see armed police shooting people at random in tense situations with no good reason and no control. There have been any number of stories of police shooting people - typically black* people, it has to be said - who should not have been shot. Such incidents inflame race tensions in the US frequently. Is that what you want here? Can you imagine it in Northern Ireland? Why is not wanting to inflame violence such a bad thing?

We live in a civil society. It needs protecting yes, but not by giving police powers to kill at random.

(*disclaimer: whatever is the polite term nowadays, in whichever region of Britain you're in, for people with skin that is not white and are of bloodlines drawn in some cases centuries ago and unpleasant circumstances from Africa, no offence intended)

Adding the 40 billion of extra spending the tories are peddling. 3 billion in the manifesto and the 37 billion they announced before the election.

Alsohuman
That’s the most illogical post I’ve ever seen

Not at all - I've read dozens of posts on this forum (from remainers) complaining that older voters have been allowed to sway the referendum result - I think it's ironic that the Labour Party are relying on academics in their 80s to back up their economic policy.

Hello OP Boris. Now spaff off and try and do a proper day's work.

I've read dozens of posts on this forum (from remainers) complaining that older voters have been allowed to sway the referendum result - I think it's ironic that the Labour Party are relying on academics in their 80s to back up their economic policy

I think conflating two completely different issues and then using three out of 163 - approximately 2% - economists to prove a nonexistent point is frankly risible.

I’d be marking your homework Must try much harder.

Not at all - I've read dozens of posts on this forum (from remainers) complaining that older voters have been allowed to sway the referendum result - I think it's ironic that the Labour Party are relying on academics in their 80s to back up their economic policy.

Over 100 economists sign the letter, and you declare the Labour Party are relying on academics in their 80’s. I will find the full list for you but I can bet vast majority are not in their 80s.

David Attenborough is 93 and still right on climate change and other environmental issues

Full list of signatories here www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/labour-deserves-to-form-the-next-government-leading-economists-tell-the-ft/26/11/

Reading the above see it is actually 163 signatories

I hope you can afford private healthcare then.

*Reading the above see it is actually 163 signatories^

The link is a bit misleading; "the 163 economists from top institutions", "the notable economists", "the top economists"

• at least half are not from top institutions at all - 15 teach at the University of Greenwich, 6 at the Open University, others at Kingston, Huddersfield, Wolverhampton, Herts, Northampton, East London, West of England etc.

Quite a few appear to be EU citizens - conflict of interest? The article says they are against a 'hard Brexit'.The remainder are probably left-wing academics, even if they are considered to be notable economists.

I googled 5 of them:

Dr Giorgos Galanis has studied Mathematics and Economics at the Universities of Athens.

Dr Alberto Botta holds a BA with laude in Political Sciences at University of Pavia.

Mehmet Ugur In addition to curriculum development for and teaching of undergraduate and postgraduate courses, he has led and managed research projects funded by the European Commission.

Carolina Alves Macroeconomics, Money, Monetary and Fiscal Policy, Public Debt, Financialisation, Marxist Economics and Latin America.

Professor Cumbers will receive €1.76m [2018 European Research Council Advanced Grant] for his five-year project to investigate remunicipalisation, a global trend for cities to take formerly privatised assets, infrastructure and services back into public ownership.

Austerity crippled Britain.

And where did austerity come from from?
Plucked out of thin air for the fun of it??