To be glad the latest polls are saying the tories will get a good majority

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Such a relief for all of us especially for our children who would have been saddled with our debt under Corbyn’s plan

Although I will have little laugh at those desperately making out the tories havnt massively fucked up the economy because deficit and debt are different.

Austerity only came about as the labour government spent too much and didn’t save for a crisis. Other countries did but we didn’t. You can’t have a go at the tories for trying to reduce labours borrowing.
It seems like people want to have a labour government that spends money we don’t have saddle our children with debt and worry about it later! Please think of our dependents that will have to pay this debt back.
Debts went up under the tories. Services cut and debt went up. They increased the debt our children will be saddled with and increased the inequality our children will be saddled with and Brexit cost a fucking fortune and will increase the debt our children will be saddled with they've increased the homelessness our children will be saddled with. Good services, preventative services save money long term.

If they've done so well why are they not running their campaign on promoting all their fabulous achievements of the last 10 years?

Unfortunately we'll all get the government you deserve.

Odfod

YANBU to be glad OP. I have elderly parents, a toddler, and a teenager with ASD, another conservative government will be disastrous for me and my family. But fuck it, as long as you're alright.

Right?

My elderly parent, disabled brother didn't fair well under Blair, I didn't fair well under Blair either.

I'll take my chances with Boris. There is no more austerity.
I'm confident things will get much better in next few years.
Corybn will ruin the economy, put the clock back to zero. No thanks. Nor do I want pensioners struggling on small pensions, with small dividend income to be thrashed by corbyn.

I'm not sure the NHS or schools can survive five more years of Tory government.

We have a high family income and we certainly won't leave the county if we're taxed more. This is our home. We'll just spend less or save less into pensions.

I usually vote Lib Dem as it's either Lib Dem or SNP where I am and I'm not interested in an independent Scotland. I don't want Corbyn in charge but this rhetoric that higher earners will leave is total nonsense.

I'm confident things will get much better in next few years.

I look forward to hearing you explain how much better things have got - perhaps outside the Honda factory when it closes next year, or the Nissan, Mini, Jaguar or Vauxhall factories as production is halved and hundreds of thousands of workers in the factories and the supply chain are laid off. Remember, these workers go from being net contributors to the tax system to being net recipients - instead of paying into the Exchequer through income tax they take money out in the form of benefits; a double-whammy reduction in the amount then available to invest in schools, hospitals, infrastructure etc.

Corybn will ruin the economy, put the clock back to zero.

What? Turning back the clock to 1850 is actually Johnson's policy. He wants to hark back to a time when Britannia ruled the waves, Britain had a virtual monopoly on technology and an overwhelming military presence that meant that any countries that stepped out of line could quickly be brought to heel. On the domestic front, there were no pesky H&S, employment, pension or welfare laws to get in the way of profit-making, workers were not educated and were prevented from organising - rather like Johnson's current proposals for an unchained Britannia.

*So OP, you are joyfully clapping your hands for the child who wrote a letter asking for a home and food for Christmas?

Or for all the closed libraries where kids can't go to do their homework?

Or are you clapping your hands for the nurses who won't eat today so they can guarantee their kids get a meal?

I was one of those nurses who couldn't feed my kids. A single parent. I now do very well for my family in the private sector.

Don't look for me when you want the NHS because I'm not there anymore. Nor are all the marvellous nurses I've seen walk alongside me because we were so poorly treated and undervalued. There are not enough to replace us and under a conservative government you will be nursing your own at home unless you want to watch your loved ones die while they wait for ambulance services.*

^ This.

personally I think you are - but you're entitled to your opinion.
Mine is that Johnson is a lying, racist, mysoginisitc idiot, not someone I'd choose to represent my country in any way.
His only redeeming feature is that he is not Trump (but arguably his puppet anyway).
WIth first past the post voting, the choice by way of a meaningful vote is in the hands of a very small percentage of the people.
I wonder if he'll declare he doesn't have the right to form a government of tories get less than 48% of the vote, regardless of the number of MPs?

Mine is that Johnson is a lying, racist, mysoginisitc idiot, not someone I'd choose to represent my country in any way

My opinion too, but I’d add that it is appalling that he is refusing to stand up to be scrutinised in front of the voting public. Clearly this is because he has nothing to say apart from ‘let’s get Brexit done’. Tories are scared he will bluster ‘off script’ and expose his vacuous personality and lack of social and political sincerity to those who still think ‘he’s the one’. The man who would lead the country won’t address the country and be questioned about his plans? Very scary.

I'm confident things will get much better in next few years.
What is your confidence based on Comradesally?

So I sitting in Supermarket cafe with free newspapers scattered around - picked up The Mail (sorry, but only one not being read!). Interesting article

But I don't like Corbyn, give me one good reason why I should vote for labour?

2010-2019, in case you missed it...
1,000 sure start centres closed.
780 libraries closed.
700 football pitches closed.
Food bank use up 2,400%.
Homelessness up 1,000%.
Rough sleeping up 1,200%
Bedroom tax caused mass evictions.
Evictions are running at record highs.
35% of U.K. kids live in poverty.
Student fees up 300%.
Student debt has risen 150%.
Eradication of EMA (education maintenance allowance).
National debt has risen from £850billion to £2.25trillion.
Emergency Brexit stimulus from BoE in June 2016 of £175b.
Brexit related fall in national revenue £500b.
GDP fallen to -0.1%.
GBP fallen by circa 15% versus EUR and USD.
Manufacturing in recession.
Construction in recession.
Services close to recession.
25-30% cuts to all govt departments.
25-30% cuts to all councils, mainly centred on Labour councils.
Half of councils facing effective bankruptcy.
185k extra deaths attached to the political ideology of austerity.
25,000 less police.
20,000 less prison officers.
10,000 less border officials.
10,000 less firefighters.
10,000 less medical professionals.
25,000 less bed spaces for mental illness.
OECD calculate 3 million hidden unemployed, rate is really 13%.
Creation of 1.3m jobs, mainly temporary, self employed, gig economy and ZHC.
Only 30k full time work positions created.
Close on 50% of workers are self employed, ZHC, or part time precariat.
80% of the 5.3 million self employed live below the poverty line.
35% of self employed only earn £100 a month.
25% cuts for our disabled community.
80% cuts to Mobility allowance.
Closing Remploy.
40% of working households have practically no savings.
70% of households have less than 10k savings.
60% of households can only survive 2 months without a wage.
Household debt reaches new peak, despite emergency base rates.
Increase of 50% in hate crimes.
Increase of knife crime by 150% to 22,000 per year.
Increase in teenage suicide by 70%.
Suicide up 12% in the year 2018.
Self harm among young women up 70%.
Life expectancy down 3 years.
NHS satisfaction level at lowest recorded rate.
Council home building down 90%.
200k social homes lost since 2010.
Zero starter homes built, despite Tory flagship programme.
Council home building down 90%.
200k social homes lost since 2010.
One million families on council home waiting list.
100,000 increase on the council home waiting list since 2010.
36,000 teachers have left the profession.

Bot posts like these where posters have literally joined mumsnet today should tell you why voting Tory would be a bad idea.

Labour are fantasists and Tories are realists. That's the difference.

Labour are fantasists and Tories are realists.

Have you heard of Boris Johnson Tensixtysix?
😂😂😂

So Labour will use the money trees in the magic forest to pay for it all.
IFS says not do able.
And up till Nov we were having IFS thrown at us about Brexit, but suddenly when it is about Labour it is a different thing.

Labour are fantasists and Tories are realists. That's the difference

Tories are fantasists who think people can live on fresh air.

The Institute of a Fiscal Studies points out the fantasy in Tory plans (see above)

Why didn't Labour get rid of Corbyn get someone better and less controversial in, and put together a believable less pie in the sky manifesto? They would get the majority.

This ^

And I say that as a Labour supporter

The IFS says the cost of a nodeal Brexit will dwarf Labour’s spending proposals but that’s the right kind of financial ruin, I suppose.

Anyone who looks at Boris Johnson and sees someone fit to be prime minister needs their head examined!

The Tories are basing their campaign on smearing labour because their track record of actually improving things in the last 10+ years is appalling.