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To change who I'm voting for based on one news story?

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ShouldIStayOrShouldIRun · 27/11/2019 12:52

This one ->

www.itv.com/news/2019-11-27/jeremy-corbyn-says-uncensored-documents-show-nhs-is-part-of-toxic-post-brexit-trade-talks-with-us/

I had already decided to vote for the conservatives, mainly because I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the others who seem hell bent on gleefully ripping up womens rights. I've always voted so abstaining/spoiling wasn't an option.

But after reading/watching the above I think I am going to switch to voting labour. We are a disabled family, and could never afford to pay for healthcare (and I doubt insurance would touch us with a barge pole).

I don't like Momentum/Corbyn really but I'd rather complain and fight for my right to a single sex ward than not be able to use one at all

Re: brexit I voted remain in the last referendum but to be honest just have fatigue about the whole thing, so I'm not basing my vote on any of that. (Though seems a second vote isn't that terrible an idea).

Just posting because I can't see anything on here about this yet and I've gone from feeling quietly confident that Conservatives would win to feeling nervous about it now. Anyone else?

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Bluntness100 · 27/11/2019 19:07

Op do you understand, and sorry I've not read the whole thread that, Corbyn lied? It doesn't show that.

What it says is the USA can sell to th nhs, drugs etc, this is a good thing. What it does not say is that th nhs is up for sale. In any way shape nor form.

Corybn lied, no two ways about it.

Strawberrypancakes · 27/11/2019 19:08

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Considermesometimes · 27/11/2019 19:09

Lots of my friends work for the NHS, and they are not voting for Corbyn, they are worried about their houses and pensions.

Bluntness100 · 27/11/2019 19:10

I'm wondering op if you're a labour supporter and hoping your thread might convince some Tory voters to change their vote.

All the serious news channels, and all the proper analysis, have shown that th document does not show the nhs is proposed for sale at any stage in the past now or in the future,

As said, Corbyn lied, he lied big.

stucknoue · 27/11/2019 19:10

My dd is at the drs 2-3 times a month due to chronic health issues and autism, she also has a mental health team, I couldn't afford to pay and nobody will insure her for travel even!

Mordred · 27/11/2019 19:10

all those saying that Labour will trash the economy DO know there's a lot of support for their economic policies, don't they

I mean, this fact was reported widely in the Daily Mail, Express and the Telegraph... ermm...oh.

To change who I'm voting for based on one news story?
Considermesometimes · 27/11/2019 19:11

stuck I don't think any party is proposing you pay, or organise your own mental health team. Do you live in the UK?

WhoAmIToTellYou · 27/11/2019 19:13

Thing is, psychopaths in power dont give a shit about anything other than their wealth. We’re fucked.

Considermesometimes · 27/11/2019 19:14

Particularly psychopaths with early onset dementia with no backbone.

Considermesometimes · 27/11/2019 19:15

I agree blunt this is just a post trying to get us all to vote for Corbyn 'for the sake of the NHS', not a genuine tory supporter suddenly turning red because they feel 'worried'.

Sakura7 · 27/11/2019 19:19

Lots of my friends work for the NHS, and they are not voting for Corbyn, they are worried about their houses and pensions.

Hahahaha Grin

Do you think Jezza is going to take your house off you or something? Raid your pensions and savings? Jesus wept.

You're the only person on here saying NHS workers are supporting Boris. He got an interesting (to say the least) reaction from the nurses he met with today.

Bluntness100 · 27/11/2019 19:22

Consider me, yes, the subsequent posts would indicate this is someone who thinks they are trying to be clever and failing miserably. A red voter desperate for others to follow suit

Scotinthenorth · 27/11/2019 19:23

Labour supporters will believe anything that Jeremy says even though it’s been widely debunked. It’s laughable.

Deathgrip · 27/11/2019 19:25

All the serious news channels, and all the proper analysis, have shown that th document does not show the nhs is proposed for sale at any stage in the past now or in the future,

And Tory supporters say they’re not influenced by media bias.

Read the documents. The NHS is a huge issue but there are many equally grave concerns if you spend more than a second thinking about it. It’s not hard to understand.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 27/11/2019 19:25

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Deathgrip · 27/11/2019 19:26

Labour supporters will believe anything that Jeremy says even though it’s been widely debunked. It’s laughable.

Or you could, you know, read it yourself and stop listening to what a demonstrably biased media says about it. You don’t have to believe Corbyn, just use your own brain.

BlackSwanGreen · 27/11/2019 19:26

Everyone I know who works for the NHS is voting Labour.

Scotinthenorth · 27/11/2019 19:27

Corbyn really should be ashamed of himself. He made a tit of himself in the interview and he comes back with this and he’s made an even bigger tit of himself. How the fuck can anyone vote for labour under him? Seriously.

ballsdeep · 27/11/2019 19:28

I don't thi k the tories will get a solid win though.

Sakura7 · 27/11/2019 19:28

Quite a reasonable assumption

It's really, really not. It's pretty far out there in fact.

I would say it’s a majority of the hcp’s we know

Sure, if you say so...

Scotinthenorth · 27/11/2019 19:28

I work in a factory and most people are
Turning to conservatives. Won’t vote labour under Corbyn.

HateIsNotGood · 27/11/2019 19:29

Does anyone have a link to the document and a page/para number that states the "NHS for Sale" please?

Frouby · 27/11/2019 19:32

I am voting labour after much angst.

Whatever you think of labour, or JC they are probably more likely to keep the NHS. they may bankrupt the country but without health, money in the bank means nothing. Any medical professional I know (and I know a few) are voting labour, regardless of whether they are a HCP or a doctor, so various wealths.

user6289264 · 27/11/2019 19:32

Corbyn is better than Johnson. YANBU.

Sakura7 · 27/11/2019 19:32

You don’t have to believe Corbyn, just use your own brain.

One thing that has unfortunately become clear in recent years is that critical thinking skills are on wane. Too many people accept the narrative they're fed, unquestioningly. Enough to swing elections and referenda to outcomes that go against their own best interests.