To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

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To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

Andrew Neil's interviewing style is to catch people out, get them to say something foolish and pick holes in them. He rarely gives them an opportunity to say anything positive. If he interviews Johnson fairness would demand that he adopt the same style.

I doubt BJ is actively racist, it's part of the arrogance and contempt he feels for most of us. He's just as happy insulting Liverpudlians, Scots and Irish as he is remarking on appearances. Add assorted Europeans, Iranians, the list is long. Boris loves Boris. Everything and everyone else is secondary to that and all is grist to his mill. As for Andrew Neil, Spectator employee, interviewing Boris Johnson, Spectator employee, lets see how it goes.

Because the bumbling clown act that Johnson employs is better

Equality and support for all my fellow contrymen including the most vulnerable is the only way to move our society forwards. Corbyn will make strides in delivering that.

I'm not going to vote Tory, Lib Dem and Green no point here, so Labour it is.

Labour here.

In the interests of balance, are people who are concerned about "anti-semitism" in the Labour party in terms of it being a reason not to vote, as equally concerned about anti-Islamic sentiment in the Conservative party?

Personally I would be better off under a Tory government. I will not be voting for what is better for me as an individual, but what I think is better for society.

I wish I knew who originally said this about certain political contests

Not the lesser of two evils but the evil of two lessers

Labour have just released leaked, unredacted documents on the US/UK trade deal and the NHS.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2019-50569827

Also, Labour here too.

He's a terrible speaker unless he's speaking to his disciples. I don't think people who were going to vote Labour are terribly surprised at that are they? All it would have done is confirm to people who weren't going to vote for him anyway that they definitely shouldn't. Labour themselves have been putting John McDonnell and virtually everyone else forward for interview for years. We'll have to see what happens with Johnson. Id imagine he would fare almost as badly.

."..concerned about anti-Islamic sentiment in the Conservative party?

I am all up for calling out racism when I see it, but I don't see a criticism of Islam as being racist. There are many things to criticise about Islam, the human rights violations under it's name, their oppression of women, support for terrorism, homophobia, for example.

It is not racist to point these things out. However, I do see that political point scoring via virtue signalling and using what was intended as reasonable criticism is what this new left wing does. It is all about using slurs of 'isms' against people to prove that they are almighty moralistic.

There was nothing remotely racist that BJ wrote in his 'letterbox' article and the way the left uses these terms now is quite tiresome, it not only denigrates the term racism and allows real racists to quietly crack on, it is absolutely disingenuous and eroding of genuine political debate

There was nothing remotely racist that BJ wrote in his 'letterbox' article

Actually I wasn't even considering that faux pas (although to suggest BJ doesn't hold some racist and indeed homophobic views is rather a stretch!) - having said that its rather interesting that's the first point you immediately went to.

Well, I wouldn’t vote labour anyway, but he’s confirmed now that taxes will be put up for ordinary folk and not just the top 5%...otherwise they aren’t going to be able to find everything they said they would.

Corbyn has always struggled in interviews and often comes across as a petulant child.

Of course this line of questioning was going to come up especially when being interviewed by such a experienced political commentator. The question was straight forward and he should have given a straight answer and he didn’t an own goal.

And Boris will get as much of a hard time from Andrew Neil he is better at batting off questions but won’t come out of the interview well I have rarely seen a politician who has after being questioned by Andrew Neil

Andrew Neil is a woefully bad interviewer. He's desperately trying to get a soundbite for the right wing press. I was glad Corbyn didn't rise to the bait. Did you watch the interview?
I'm old. Anti semitism has never been an issue in elections till Corbyn appeared. He's not a good leader. A good leader would have sorted this out a long time ago. Moderate Labour MPs must be in despair.
Jess Phillips:The only response to the chief Rabbi that is moral is, "I'm sorry and I'll do whatever I possibly can to win back your community's trust." So that's what I will say.

@jacqueshammer

I am genuinely interested in examples of BJ's homophobia and racism. The main one I hear is the letterbox article which I feel has been 'virtue signalled' out by the left and he is not being racist, what are the other examples?

I think BJ is more of a populist than a right winger tbh.

ShatnersWig To be fair, pretty much everyone has trashed labour costings including the IFS.

Labour for me all the way. The Tories are lying deceitful war mongers.

I want to love Corbyn but I don't. I think he would be a terrible leader of the country.

However we have a terrible leader in place already. The fact that antisemitism within the labour party is everybody's focus instead of everything has said and done, blows my mind.

Anti semitism has never been an issue in elections till Corbyn appeared

Makes you wonder why the media didn’t give one single fuck about antisemitism before then. If it has been historically rife within Labour why are we only being outraged about it now?

Oh yeah it’s because they had no interest in using it as a weapon until someone came along who might hold them financially and socially accountable.

It's not so much that I think JC is himself anti Semitic.( I haven't seen any evidence of that to date although there does seem to be an issue within the party which is not in the face of it being tackled).It's his terrible handling of it. Why not just apologise instead of dogmatically avoiding doing so to the point of looking guilty of it? It's the lack of judgment that worries me as much as anything else.
But then the same can be said of Boris who doesn't have sound judgment about well, anything, it seems, and the conservatives in general.
Basically there is no one party I feel happy to vote for. So I will have to vote locally I guess.

That poster sums up the left wing right now

"Be an amazing person like me and stand up for minorities'

It's pathetic

And as for all the quotes it has pulled out.....really?!?!

The left has lost it's way completely under Corbyn

@ArthurtheCatsHumanSlave

82 economists wrote to the FT in support of Labour's plans.

drive.google.com/file/d/1kPspUtGjSfqQ-EaclTwpasJWdpK-Y4JL/view

Media is horrendouly biased against Corbyn - yesterday a damning report on child poverty under the Tories was completely buried with no media scrutiny whatsover and the whole focus was on Corbyn and anti-semitism.
Corbyn probably could have played the game with Neil and came across better but it was one single interview with a notoriously bullish interviewer.
There was no attention whatsoever given to Javid's uncomfortable attempted defence of accusations against the Tories re Islamophobia.

I am genuinely interested in examples of BJ's homophobia and racism

Are you serious? He called black people 'piccaninnies' with 'watermelon smiles' and gay men ‘tank topped bum boys’.

But yes Corbyn is the terrible one for saying Palestinians should have the right to peacefully exist and not be terrorised by Israel.