To feel worried about the future? (Election related)

[Abc123def]

I’m incredibly sick of the society we’re living in. It’s bleak and horrible. When you hear about the millions of children in poverty and over 130000 people who have died as a result of austerity it makes me so sad.

My dh and I are working 4 jobs between us just to be able to save up for a house, whereas my elder siblings managed to buy in the 90’s when everything was cheaper with tiny deposits. No matter how we save, house prices keep rising and our “25%” deposit figure keeps getting bigger.

I feel deflated and feel like there’s no hope. Liars and cheats are the winners in this world. Hard working people get nothing. I’m probably feeling over emotional but the thought of another 5 years of tories fills me with terror.

There has not been harm done since 2010

Are you saying that with a straight face? You clearly don't live in a city because it's obvious walking round mine that the number of homeless people have increased exponentially - and that's obviously just one example.

My god Xenia!
Look around you!

I feel your pain about the housing issue OP. I’m in London and bought a house for £500k with DH. The neighbours next door bought their (identical) property in the 90s for about £50k. I don’t care if interest rates were higher then - there’s no way anyone can say that people buying 20 years ago didn’t have it easier!

There has not been harm done since 2010. The Tories inherited a huge mess and have made a really good job of starting to tackle it. Let us give them at least another 5 years from next month to get on with the job

Wrong on many levels.

Long time labour voter, never voted for any other party, but terrified what has happened to labour under JC. Will be voting Tory, we are on a swing seat so at least my vote might count. Even today you can see how scarred the Jewish community are if labour get in

It’s not governments ‘putting children into poverty’ it’s people producing children they cannot afford and expect everyone else to pay for.

And I doubt if all the people had good jobs and lost them

Xenia lives in a bubble of wealth and privilege. She’s wilfully ignorant of Tory failings because she’s alright Jack. Besides, don’cha know how hard she’s worked

There has not been harm done since 2010

What an utterly shameful comment.

It’s not governments ‘putting children into poverty’ it’s people producing children they cannot afford and expect everyone else to pay for

Bull
Shit

It’s easy, I suppose to blame feckless parents for “producing” children they can’t afford.

So, does that mean it’s right to let those children suffer for their parents mistakes?

"It’s not governments ‘putting children into poverty’ it’s people producing children they cannot afford and expect everyone else to pay for".....
I agree. I didnt have children until I could afford them. I never wanted a child that I couldnt provide for. Of course there are situations where others have done this but for whatever reason, things have fell apart, such as accidents / ill health / disability....and that's when our benefits system comes in.

and that's when our benefits system comes in

And it is failing.

Do you think children deserve to be left to rot because of the choices of their parents? A child has no choice about it’s upbringing

@Xenia, do you have any idea how angry you make people when you post your complacent observations from the Ivory tower where you live insulated by your much vaunted wealth? You’re like Marie Antoinette and it’s really not a good look.

"Do you think children deserve to be left to rot because of the choices of their parents? A child has no choice about it’s upbringing"
No I dont? Do you? I never said that. I do think people should take more responsibility though and not just expect the benefits system to be their "go to" lifestyle choice. People dont seem to save for a rainy day anymore or just not have stuff if they cant afford it. Then when things go wrong cry ",it's the governments fault". I think our benefits system is pretty good, apart from the issues around universal credit etc.

There has not been harm done since 2010.

Ffs. Says the woman looking out from her private island. 🙄.

YOU are the problem in this world. YOU.

People dont seem to save for a rainy day anymore

It's a bit difficult to save on MW I imagine, especially when rents are sky high.

@Abc123def, has she really got her own island? Seriously?

"It's a bit difficult to save on MW I imagine, especially when rents are sky high."

The mantra of "save for a rainy day" was in before minimum wage existed and people were on a lot less. Better to do that than take out lots of credit all the time for stuff you dont need then when life goes tits up you're in deep trouble. I know an 18 year old who has just bought a brand new car on credit and she only has a temp part time job!! Others who buy everything in their house on the never never, or buy houses they cant afford and then need time off for mat leave etc and also have no critical illness cover etc!! No forward planning or caution as they suspect the government will help.

Tabbymunz I'd love to know how that girl got credit for a car at her age with presumably no credit record and only a part time job.

Starbucks.....so would I, but she did. She probably does have a credit card too.

The mantra of "save for a rainy day" was in before minimum wage existed and people were on a lot less

Yes, that mantra was around a long time ago. My dad, who would have been 104 next year and grew up in a north east mining community, used to laugh at it and say it was the preserve of the middle class. Nobody he knew in his childhood had a hope of ever saving anything, getting to pay day without running out of food was a challenge. I don’t imagine it’s very different now.

Of course there are situations where others have done this but for whatever reason, things have fell apart, such as accidents / ill health / disability....and that's when our benefits system comes in.

Oh it does? You’d think with having two disabled children who receive a pittance which wouldn’t even cover the cost of the therapy they should be getting on the NHS but aren’t, I should have known that the benefits system was sorting everything out for us! Silly me!

My family were also poorer than poor, but they made sure they had some shillings saved for a rainy day. When a family member's mother died 6 months after her father, she used those shillings to pay the landlord before he found out about the death so as they had a roof over their head for a bit longer before other family could take them in. So even the poor saved, not just restricted to middle class.

People dont seem to save for a rainy day anymore

It's a bit difficult to save on MW I imagine, especially when rents are sky high.

…and interest rates on savings accounts are pitiful, because it's now more important to feed the housing market beast.

Deathgrip.....yes it does. I'm very grateful for the disability benefits we receive. In my parents younger days, there were no benefits at all.