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to suggest that Mumsnet is quite sexist against men?

848 replies

Eckhart · 18/11/2019 16:51

I don't know if it's just the threads I've been on. I don't know how many men use Mumsnet.

Sexism either way makes me equally uncomfortable. How do other Mumsnet users feel about this?

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AgeLikeWine · 18/11/2019 19:50

Double standards are very widespread on MN. The recent thread about men being expected to pay on dates being an obvious example.

It is also noticeable that sexless relationships are treated very differently depending on whether it is the woman or the man who is withholding sex, eg

“My wife won’t have sex with me.” - “Do more housework, childcare & stop pressuring her.”

“My husband won’t have sex with me” - “He’s abusive / porn addicted/ cheating. LTB”

Eckhart · 18/11/2019 19:50

birdsdestiny, I'm not going to spend 20 minutes reading a post by somebody who's accusing me of not being genuine in the 2nd line.

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PlanDeRaccordement · 18/11/2019 19:51

have a splendid memory for usernames. I quite openly remember who to avoid.

Not if you are keeping a spreadsheet as you stated earlier. That’s more sinister.

Patroclus · 18/11/2019 19:51

Slow reader? suprise

JacquesHammer · 18/11/2019 19:52

Double standards are very widespread on MN. The recent thread about men being expected to pay on dates being an obvious example

So the exact same posters are posting on both threads?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 18/11/2019 19:52

I can't face reading your novel, I'm afraid.

That’s absolutely disgusting and you have the fucking cheek to whinge about men. There we have it. Misogyny on full show.

Eckhart · 18/11/2019 19:53

Poor speller?

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Theendofmyrope · 18/11/2019 19:54

@Graphista That took an effort and the OP just brushed it off as cant be arsed. That tells you all you need to know about it and its woe is me I don't really mind if you think I'm genuine or not. I asked a question..... but then gets bent out shape when referred to as a "him"

ClosdesMouches · 18/11/2019 19:54

New socks for Christmas.

maddiemookins16mum · 18/11/2019 19:55

Pretty much most of MN hate men, so there’s no point posting anything in ‘defence’ of them because the usual men haters will appear with their sarky comments.

Eckhart · 18/11/2019 19:55

@totally I get it, you hate me, you think I'm a misogynistic piece of crap.

I wasn't whinging about men. Think you got carried away on your fury, there.

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Simkin · 18/11/2019 19:56

I don't think it's all that sexist 'towards' men, no. I think it's supportive of women though and that can look the same in a society that's skewed against us. There are a lot of people who are kind of horrible about everyone in here though, are you sure it's not that you're seeing?!

RolytheRhino · 18/11/2019 19:56

It is also noticeable that sexless relationships are treated very differently depending on whether it is the woman or the man who is withholding sex

Depends if there's a definable and temporary issue that is causing the situation, e.g. looking after kids all day, being touched out and exhausted, being post-partum or pregnant, cancer treatments etc, or whether it's non-defined and the person in question is refusing to discuss it. There was one recently where a man was withholding sex because his wife was pregnant and it made him uncomfortable to have sex with her. The advice given to his wife was to wait it out and that it's fairly common. Sympathy was dispensed and no one villified the man at all. I genuinely don't think that the sex of the poster is the defining factor.

Sagradafamiliar · 18/11/2019 19:56

We women need to be better at...(insert rest of sentence to do with praising men who aren't utter cunts

Oh ffs. Why is it's women's job to sort out toxic masculinity and heap recognition on decent men so as to solve the problem of the not-so-decent ones?!

birdsdestiny · 18/11/2019 19:57

Thank you for your post graphista.

LolaSmiles · 18/11/2019 19:57

JacquesHammer
I don't think so on the same posters.
I do think on certain topics there are double standards. The ones I think stand out are usually around policing friendships and snooping on phones and/or financial ones where the advice from some posters varies widely based on who is the higher earner.

However, that doesn't excuse some of the ridiculous claims made by the OP and other "poor men" posters on this thread where MN is somehow some mean anti men funfair.

Patroclus · 18/11/2019 19:58

Thats you that is

to suggest that Mumsnet is quite sexist against men?
Alwaysreadingme · 18/11/2019 19:58

Poor men :( when will the world ever be in their favor...

Eckhart · 18/11/2019 19:59

@Theendofmyrope I've not got bent out of shape at any point. I have asked why a couple of people have said they think I'm a man.
Question: If all you want to do is attack me, why not leave the thread and save your effort? And before you tell me THAT'S misogyny, remember, I don't know your sex either.

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Eckhart · 18/11/2019 20:01

Thank you Patroclus. I do actually look a bit like that. No whiskers though.

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JacquesHammer · 18/11/2019 20:02

Not if you are keeping a spreadsheet as you stated earlier. That’s more sinister

Oh unclench. Seriously. It’s a mental spreadsheet. I mean by all means consider me typing away to further your batshit agenda if it makes you feel better. But congrats, you were on the periphery previously - you’ve resoundingly made the cut!

JacquesHammer · 18/11/2019 20:03

I don't think so on the same posters
I do think on certain topics there are double standards

It’s important who the posters are. As I said earlier MN is nothing more than a collection of individuals. That’s why saying “MN is.....” is nonsense.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 18/11/2019 20:04

RolytheRhino

I have seen threads where there hasn't been a definite reason for the sex stopping and where the partner has refused to discuss it or seek treatment. Whether the person is male or female greatly affects the tone of the posts.

I also don't see why say pregnancy or menopause related disinterest in sex should be treated more sympathetically than ED or low testosterone? Why does being touched out as a mother deserve greater sympathy than being absolutely knackered by working long hours in a physical job just because you're male?

Graphista · 18/11/2019 20:04

“A woman has just described horrendous experiences in her life and you can't be bothered to read it.“

Of course - because he/she doesn’t want to acknowledge the reality for so many girls/women.

“That took an effort” thank you for recognising that, I tried to write a balanced but realistic post. But clearly as pp said op has an agenda.

Thank you to those who read and appreciated my post,

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