Aibu to think you look younger without make-up?

[SalemShadow]

Just that! Been asked for ID constantly lately and not been wearing makeup as giving my skin a break. I'm 40. This never normally happens. Do you think you look younger without makeup actually?

Actually I think very few people look better with make up on. The vast majority look older with it on.

absolutely!

The worst people for that are the ones who genuinely believe they have a "skill" - self-trained make-up "artists" would be the perfect example.
They think the more they put on, the better it looks and it's really badly applied. You can see some fine examples at make-up counters, but not only.

Not many people actually know what they are doing, and unless they try to keep to a natural look, it does show. Looks awful

Does it matter?No. Do we really care? No. We are still allowed to think they look awful, they must have very low self estim if they think they look better, and what a waste of time and money that is.

Even some real professionals get it wrong sometimes, just look at official awards.

I work in an office with professional women (some jaw dropping glamorous) who are generally well turned out and many wear makeup. They are also very busy.

As the day goes on, some of that make up starts to fade, the lipstick goes and things look less distinct. They generally look worse (not even younger) as move towards the no-make up look.

Therefore, I cannot believe that most women look better without make up. Not in my office for sure.

As the day goes on, some of that make up starts to fade, the lipstick goes and things look less distinct. They generally look worse (not even younger) as move towards the no-make up look.

they are not moving towards no-make up, but very badly applied one!

Decent make-up is supposed to last for more than a couple of hours... unless you are on a photoshoot, it's pretty pointless otherwise.

EnglishPatient

On one hand you say that "They think the more they put on, the better it looks and it's really badly applied" and on the other hand you say "Decent make-up is supposed to last for more than a couple of hours... "

The women in my office work 8 hours (normal working day) and longer, which is more than just 'a couple of hours'. If you expect make up to last for longer than a couple of hours, it generally has to be more heavily applied at the start.

Make that is more subtle tends to use a lighter hand and hence does not last as long but requires more touch up, which in the office is not always easy to do with meetings and calls.

I am not sure why you seem to have a chip and veer towards the view that make up is badly applied.

Not in my part of the world - the women are polished and subtle but understandably more worn down by the end of the day.

I'm 39 and don't wear make up, but religiously use sunblock on my face. I get asked for ID fairly often

Not in my part of the world - the women are polished and subtle but understandably more worn down by the end of the day.

A sweeping statement.

yeh, i thought that comment was unusually harsh!

i wear a bit of make-up and i hope i set off looking polished, if it's ''worn off'' by the end of the day, so be it. it's not the decline of the roman empire if my lipstick wears off. Don't care that much, especially as my lipstick is lip colour!

I just want to know what makeup you all wear that performs the effect of dramatically ageing all these dewy baby faced Mumsenetters? .
I wear make up for work because it makes me feel more “done” and confident.
Other times I’m quite happy to go without,something that would have horrified a younger me. Ironically I’m more confident the older and shitter looking I get. I honestly don’t care what other people think and by the same reasoning I don’t care what others do. Women really shouldn’t drag each other down, men have and always will do that for us so we should be each other’s champions not adversaries.
Sorry if I’ve veered away from your original question but this is something I feel so passionate about. Wear makeup, enjoy it. Go barefaced and love your skin but let’s not use it as another reason to pull each other down .

The women in my office work 8 hours (normal working day) and longer, which is more than just 'a couple of hours'. If you expect make up to last for longer than a couple of hours, it generally has to be more heavily applied at the start.

or more accurately... LESS of it! And chose better and different products that will stay all day.

It's completely pointless otherwise, why wasting so much time and money in the morning if by lunch time you look the same or worst? People will remember how you looked last thing in the evening, not first thing in the morning. It's bizarre.

Some people don't understand the difference between day and evening make-up! You should look pretty much the same after 8 hours than you did first thing, or you doing it very wrong. (yes, reapply your lipstick after brushing your teeth, but you shouldn't need more than that)

Sorry if I’ve veered away from your original question but this is something I feel so passionate about. Wear makeup, enjoy it. Go barefaced and love your skin but let’s not use it as another reason to pull each other down

I love this statement.

EnglishPatient your insistence that women have to apply make up to high standards and use good products that last all day is joyless and raising the bar so high that no one will feel confident to wear make up.

You are either an expert in applying in make up or utterly clueless about how make up works but judging women who do.

your insistence that women have to apply make up to high standards and use good products that last all day is joyless and raising the bar so high that no one will feel confident to wear make up.

I am just stating common sense... it's hardly expertise to point out what a 15 year old girl will already know!

If you are happy looking a state in the evening because your make-up doesn't last all day, go for it, I am allowed to question the point of it?

If you make-up lasts for a photoshoot, it makes more sense...

Being presentable in the evening hardly makes me clueless

@PlanDeRaccordement To be honest, they prefer to ask ID of the obviously too young and the obviously of age. Clerks do not like to ask anyone who looks young but may be of age because people have been known to get offended. Once you are 40, you are in the safe zone where asking for ID is now a compliment and not any chance of offending the customer.

Absolutely this. I got ID'd fairly consistently up to the age of 30. Then I had children & looked like shit & didn't get ID'd for years. I'm now 40 & it's started happening again.

I am not so deluded as to think I've suddenly started looking 20 years younger than i am!

EnglishPatient: If you are happy looking a state in the evening because your make-up doesn't last all day, go for it, I am allowed to question the point of it?

My colleagues did not look in a state. Their make up was more worn out towards the later part of the day but they did not "look in a state". The hyperbole, which seems to be your trademark, is your own interpretation.

Touching make up is sensible. Many women choose to do it before a big meeting or a night out - it takes 5 minutes, is hardly the worst thing in the world and does not render make up applied in the morning pointless. Maybe you just don't like make up, wearing or applying it or seeing it on other women and are making it such a big deal.

Being presentable in the evening hardly makes me clueless

Once again, they are not "unpresentable". That is your interpretation. They are still polished, much more than the average person in the street.

If you are happy looking a state in the evening because your make-up doesn't last all day, go for it

That is such a stupid remark. What is “looking a state”, anyway?
Speak for yourself.

Liquid foundation adds 10 years on me

If I speak for myself astralweaks I look just as good in the evening as I do in the morning, and I don't bother with much make-up, thank you for asking

My own colleagues look great "blueshoes*, they seem more polished than yours - but we work in a corporate environment, maybe that has something to do with it 🤷

I don't know where you live, but the average person in the street doesn't look that bad where I am, and really doesn't look that unpolished where I work

theEnglishInPatient I am not surprised you don't know how to wear make up. As for you, your corporate colleagues and man in the street looking great or polished, if you say so.

Just to clarify, I work in a global law firm based in the City. That is the 'corporate' environment I mean when I refer to my women colleagues. Not that it is particularly relevant other than to provide context.

blueshoes
If it makes you happier to think I have no idea, go for it, I understand it's frustrating that some of us don't need so much.

Of course you work in the city so do I btw Even there I can see women who haven't got a clue, maybe you know some of them?

I did mean for my post to sound like it is written, it's easy to be goady online isn't it