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In-laws coming for 6 days after Xmas. Again.

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 16:42

Apologies that this is so long. I need to vent.

OH is from another European country and we see his parents, who live in his home country, 5 or 6 times a year, including staying with them for a week or two in the summer. They are in their late 60s/early 70s. We have a 3-year-old DC. We lived with PIL from when DC was 9 to 20 months old, so they got to spend a great deal of time with DC and they developed a special bond which I am pleased about.

Before I met him, OH was actually estranged from his DP for around 15 years. This will be the sixth consecutive year that they have spent time with their son over the Xmas period after he resumed contact with them.

My DP live in the same town as us and we see them once or twice a month, but not normally for very long. Last year we did not see them at all over Christmas. DF has been diagnosed with a long-term illness and this year we have decided to invite my parents for Xmas Day, along with my grandmother, who is 97. They are really touched we have asked them and I want to make it special for them.

OH is very in demand by his employer throughout November and December (working 7-day weeks) and does not currently know which days he can get off over Xmas other than the bank holidays. Because of the nature of OH’s job, I run the home and do pretty much all of the admin and childcare when DC is not at nursery. I also work full time. I do not have a weekend and am always shattered, but particularly so at the end of the year. I have been working from home for the past few months and managing household stuff during breaks but will be starting a new full-time office job at the start of December and will no doubt be more tired than usual.

Last year, OH’s parents came to stay with us from 27 Dec to 2 Jan, leaving on the morning I went back to work. We lived in a very small flat not much bigger than a studio with one main living area /kitchen, where PIL slept. It was very cramped and after 6 days I had more than had enough of us all being piled up like sardines. DP afterwards reassured me that we would put our foot down next time and not have them to stay for so long. Claiming that MIL gets ill every time she flies because she came down with a really nasty cold once, they had insisted on driving to see us (it’s several hundred km so more than a day each way) and taking the ferry.

I am off work for the days between Xmas and New Year because DC’s nursery will be closed. I would relish the chance of a bit of rest (as much as is possible with a 3-year-old in tow) between Xmas and and going back to work, but lo and behold OH has informed me that PIL are once again coming to stay with us from 27 Dec to 2 Jan (i.e. 6 nights and 6 full days), leaving once again on the morning I return to work.

To arrange this, OH and his parents have had discussions on the phone, always when OH is not home so I am not privy to what has been said. Just like last year, it has transpired that they will be driving and taking the ferry. I am totally convinced that they do this in order to stay for longer, because they need time to get over the journey and it would be too much to head back after 3 days. They need help with the internet so OH books their travel for them, which means he does have an element of control, but in spite of this he always ends up agreeing to the dates that suit PIL. They are not retired and return to work on 4 Jan so basically come to us for all of the spare time they have. They would come on Boxing Day if we let them but we have at least managed to convince them that we need our space then.

Last year we were in the same situation, both in full-time jobs. We went to my grandmother’s from Xmas Eve to Boxing Day and returned home on 27 Dec late morning. PIL were due that evening but showed up during the afternoon because they’d managed to get an earlier ferry, even though OH had been quite clear with them that we would not be ready to welcome them (unpacking, doing laundry, getting flat ready etc) before the evening. OH told them they weren’t being reasonable and they told us that they hadn't considered it from our point of view.

What makes me feel guilty at being annoyed is that PIL are lovely to us when we stay with them, feed us lovely home-grown food and let us relax. They have a large house with 2 spare rooms, so we can all spend time together without getting on top of each other, and the weather is always good so we spend a lot of time outdoors. When they come to us, PIL are not difficult guests other than FIL having a few little irritating habits (e.g. leaving toilet seat up) that are easy enough to ignore most of the time.

Last year PIL were so tired from the journey that they just sat on the sofa for 2 days, not interacting with DC not doing anything to help me. I found it hard to keep them entertained. OH was only able to have a couple of days off out of the 6 that his parents were here. This year he says he will try and take more time off, but it is pretty likely that he will have to cancel the days off and go in. I don’t drive, so we cannot go very far afield if OH is not around, and PIL do not speak any English at all, so are completely dependent on me to interpret for them whenever we do go anywhere.

I also currently have to interpret what DC says for PIL as DC does understand their language but does not speak it in full sentences yet. FIL largely ignores my efforts and makes little effort to try and grasp any words at all in English. He also likes to spend a lot of time comparing culture in the UK with his own culture, which starts to grate after a couple of days as he says the same stuff every time they visit.

Although we now live in a larger flat, we do not have a spare room. PIL will be sleeping in the small dining room/playroom on an inflatable bed that will have to be shoved out of the way every morning so we can have breakfast. PIL live in a very rural area with a large garden and have chickens, goats etc. As a result they are constantly in and out of their house. But when they are with us they end up cooped up indoors unless I suggest something and pretty much push them out the door, even though they have visited our town several times now.

I think it really bothers me that I have adapted to their culture and that they have not really adapted to mine.

I have just had an argument with OH because once again I wasn’t given a say in the dates that he’s agreed with his DP. He says that I did agree, and that I agreed last year as well. But there is no way I would ever have accepted such a long stay, not when I’m the one that has to do all the entertaining / organising. He just informs me which dates have been chosen, which is definitely not the same as asking me what I think and taking my preferences into consideration. He never normally behaves like this.

OH admitted last night that he hasn’t actually booked the travel yet, so I asked him to consider booking flights instead of a ferry and for a shorter period such as from 29 Dec to 2 Jan, and to just inform his DP that that is what suits us best. It would make more sense because PIL would be much less tired and much less bored, and we might all appreciate the time we have together more. Not to mention we wouldn’t have to find somewhere for them to leave their car (we live in an area with very restricted parking). It would also mean OH was keeping his promise of making things less difficult for me this year.

OH has said that not living in the same country as PIL justifies the length of the visit. I get that Xmas is important to them, but it doesn’t make sense to me that they would come for such a long time when their son is not around to spend time with them (he will have a lot more availability from January onwards) and the days are so short and dark.

I have told him I have nothing against seeing them. I just find 6 days is too much and I am really annoyed that I don’t get a say in it. I have told him I would be happy for PIL to come and stay more often for long weekends during the year.

I am dreading having to entertain PIL, meal plan, prepare food, do extra washing up etc for 6 whole days when I could be taking it a bit more easy. But more importantly than that I am particularly worried about managing PIL’s expectations, as OH has confessed to me that unlike my parents they expect to see us every year at Xmas. It certainly already feels like a pattern has been established.

Thank you if you've read this far.

AIBU to be pissed off that my wishes are being ignored or am I just making a big bah humbug fuss about nothing?

OP posts:
Drum2018 · 14/11/2019 18:22

That's what makes it hard - I would never have settled for a situation where I was the skivvy.

But that's what you are doing if you don't put a stop to this ridiculous holiday arrangement asap.

Poppinjay · 14/11/2019 18:24

I would tell him he should only book the travel that allows them to be there while he is. If he has to work, they will need to arrive later/leave earlier.

Also, cancel at least one or two days of your annual leave and use it a week later when they have gone, your DC is in nursery and you can relax.

Dutch1e · 14/11/2019 18:26

Is there a summary?

PIL coming from abroad for the only 6 days OP has off to really relax. OH won't take any time off to host.

Singlenotsingle · 14/11/2019 18:26

You must INSIST that OH does the entertaining, cooking, cleaning etc. Tell him that if he goes to work, you'll go and spend a few days with your own dp's.

Dutch1e · 14/11/2019 18:27

Sorry, ignore my summary already handled by OP!

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/11/2019 18:28

"I would love to put them in the local Travelodge but they would take it very badly."
And? Really not seeing a problem with them taking it badly.

"I am dreading having to entertain PIL, meal plan, prepare food, do extra washing up etc for 6 whole days when I could be taking it a bit more easy."

"Before I met him, OH was actually estranged from his DP for around 15 years. ... because they were so bloody manipulative and wanted him to build a house on their land and live next to them forever and didn't want him to move away and spread his wings."
Remind him of this. Point out they haven't changed, they're still manipulative and you have had enough. This year is too, too pressured and you will not be hosting his parents. The choices he has is

  1. to put them off until later in the year, or
  2. have them turn up and you move to your parents for the duration (or the Travelodge!) and he can explain THAT to them.

He's tried to paint you into a corner by arranging all this behind your back. Well, stomp all over his paintwork and wipe your painty feet all over his favourite shirt - this is NOT happening!
Then don't do it. Tell your husband it's his job. Can you move to your parents for a few days? No, I'm not kidding.

"But more importantly than that I am particularly worried about managing PIL’s expectations, as OH has confessed to me that unlike my parents they expect to see us every year at Xmas. It certainly already feels like a pattern has been established."
Break that pattern now. He hasn't booked their travel, insist he cancels. Tells his parents he is going to be working long hours on those dates, he wants to actually see them so it's best if they move dates to a less-pressed time, how about February. BREAK THE PATTERN.

EL8888 · 14/11/2019 18:30

6 days is way too much especially with the amount of space you have. If he wants his parents to visit then he shouldn’t let the whole burden fall to you. He needs to take some time off work or make the visit way shorter or they stay elsewhere. He’s being very unfair

ZenNudist · 14/11/2019 18:30

This is an OH problem. Put your foot down. Can you go to your family and leave him to it. I think youd be reasonable given the new job to out and out refuse. You cant blame ILs wanting to come for a longer trip. Tfll them to do that at Easter

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/11/2019 18:31

"I am dreading having to entertain PIL, meal plan, prepare food, do extra washing up etc for 6 whole days when I could be taking it a bit more easy."
So furious on your behalf I forgot to add after this quote -
Don't do it. He's made this arrangement, it is for him to do all that. And if he doesn't want to do it, he needs to tell them not to come. Seriously. If you do it, he'll just land you with this again next year.

Sockworkshop · 14/11/2019 18:34

Dont do it!
Book a mini break , nice hotel and relax.
I would be fuming if my precious hols were taken up with other people.

JasonPollack · 14/11/2019 18:38

The more years you allow it to continue the more they will expect it. Your OH is gaslighting you telling you you've agreed to this. Tell him no, absolutely not. Either the shorter time or not at all.

Sleepyhead19 · 14/11/2019 18:39

@Antigon well I would like to think not as the last two times, they stayed in a local hotel which I think makes life easier for us all. It’s just when they visit (since starting to stay in hotels) they stay 9am til 9pm and it is still exhausting. When we had a new baby last time, they stayed all day which made breastfeeding uncomfortable and I was still expected to do everything, despite being ill and barely being able to walk.
I am hoping they maybe visit briefly a couple of days running or that after I have fed the baby, my ex takes it to see them for an hour. That’s assuming I don’t have a very hungry baby otherwise that will be a no go. I don’t know what to do without offending them but they are now my exes responsibility to entertain and not mine.

Lexplorer · 14/11/2019 18:56

It's your holiday, just go away. And don't agree it first with dh. Fair's fair

Mummyshark2018 · 14/11/2019 18:59

It could be worse- they could come before Christmas and ruin Xmas day with your family!
Seriously though it's 6 days. I live in another country to my parents and I would have my dh to say they couldn't come, especially if he was getting to spend Xmas day (or any day really) with his family. BUT if my family were coming I would take the time off work to see them, look after them and entertain them.

In your case I would do what another pp said and work a day of two of the days they're over and tell dh that childcare is his responsibility in those days so either he does it or he asks his parents. I would then take 3rd January off work and take myself to a spa for the day Smile

Irisloulou · 14/11/2019 18:59

THe suggestion by a PP to go work, Is genius, I applaud you.
Most companies are quiet over Christmas, book some of jan off.

Beat him at his own game.

autumnmum · 14/11/2019 19:08

Do what I did - go overseas next Christmas. It was an expensive way to make a point but it worked. We no longer get the long visits though because my FIL is too ill to travel now (which is very sad, but does mean Christmas is less stressful).

Sweetooth92 · 14/11/2019 19:20

Refuse to have them at yours for so long.
In future years get DH to book a 4 day break or whatever for new year at centerpatcs type place for their visit and present. You can make sure there’s 3 bedrooms. There’s stuff to do for DC, and you can eat out/share the load/we will cook tonight, grandparents take kids swimming/to park. Oh DH you and DC have a nice day with your parents, I’m off to the spa to relax for the day.
Being away also means your DH can’t leave you too it and go to work.
If he doesn’t like the above idea, then they don’t come. End of debate! Slightly more costly option but doing it for your present to them will absorb some cost and save your sanity

NoSauce · 14/11/2019 19:28

@NoSauce OH has allowed in-laws to come for 6 days after Xmas but will not have time off work so I will have to use my Xmas break hosting them. Already overrun working full-time with toddler to look after and OH working 7-day weeks.

Fuck that. Didn’t have time to read it all before thanks for breaking it down OP!

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Needapoo22 · 14/11/2019 21:42

I'm not a troll. Just think 6 days you could suck it up, after all they host you 2 weeks in the summer. It isn't that long after all and it sounds like they have catching up to do after so long apart.

Poppinjay · 14/11/2019 21:44

it sounds like they have catching up to do after so long apart.

In which case they need to be there when he is off work and able to spend time with them.

Needapoo22 · 14/11/2019 21:48

Yes but that isn't an option so the next best thing is to spend time with his wife and child.

Sorry, I just don't think 6 days is unreasonable to host them. 😐

Cryalot2 · 14/11/2019 21:54

Can you fake illness, like tell yoir dh you are run down and have to take things easy.
I don't think lies are right , but reading your post made me feel exhausted.
Its your home and you cannot be expected to entertain his parents. If he invites them then he stays and entertains them.

FamilyOfAliens · 14/11/2019 22:06

Sorry, I just don't think 6 days is unreasonable to host them.

It isn’t - provided he hosts them and OP does as she pleases. He invited them against her wishes, after all.

likeafishneedsabike · 14/11/2019 22:08

I think that a PP had it right when they said that you should go to work! The Xmas break isn’t going to be a break at all, so take it in January and let the GPs crack on with DC. You’re a working mother, not a 1950s style hostess.