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In-laws coming for 6 days after Xmas. Again.

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 16:42

Apologies that this is so long. I need to vent.

OH is from another European country and we see his parents, who live in his home country, 5 or 6 times a year, including staying with them for a week or two in the summer. They are in their late 60s/early 70s. We have a 3-year-old DC. We lived with PIL from when DC was 9 to 20 months old, so they got to spend a great deal of time with DC and they developed a special bond which I am pleased about.

Before I met him, OH was actually estranged from his DP for around 15 years. This will be the sixth consecutive year that they have spent time with their son over the Xmas period after he resumed contact with them.

My DP live in the same town as us and we see them once or twice a month, but not normally for very long. Last year we did not see them at all over Christmas. DF has been diagnosed with a long-term illness and this year we have decided to invite my parents for Xmas Day, along with my grandmother, who is 97. They are really touched we have asked them and I want to make it special for them.

OH is very in demand by his employer throughout November and December (working 7-day weeks) and does not currently know which days he can get off over Xmas other than the bank holidays. Because of the nature of OH’s job, I run the home and do pretty much all of the admin and childcare when DC is not at nursery. I also work full time. I do not have a weekend and am always shattered, but particularly so at the end of the year. I have been working from home for the past few months and managing household stuff during breaks but will be starting a new full-time office job at the start of December and will no doubt be more tired than usual.

Last year, OH’s parents came to stay with us from 27 Dec to 2 Jan, leaving on the morning I went back to work. We lived in a very small flat not much bigger than a studio with one main living area /kitchen, where PIL slept. It was very cramped and after 6 days I had more than had enough of us all being piled up like sardines. DP afterwards reassured me that we would put our foot down next time and not have them to stay for so long. Claiming that MIL gets ill every time she flies because she came down with a really nasty cold once, they had insisted on driving to see us (it’s several hundred km so more than a day each way) and taking the ferry.

I am off work for the days between Xmas and New Year because DC’s nursery will be closed. I would relish the chance of a bit of rest (as much as is possible with a 3-year-old in tow) between Xmas and and going back to work, but lo and behold OH has informed me that PIL are once again coming to stay with us from 27 Dec to 2 Jan (i.e. 6 nights and 6 full days), leaving once again on the morning I return to work.

To arrange this, OH and his parents have had discussions on the phone, always when OH is not home so I am not privy to what has been said. Just like last year, it has transpired that they will be driving and taking the ferry. I am totally convinced that they do this in order to stay for longer, because they need time to get over the journey and it would be too much to head back after 3 days. They need help with the internet so OH books their travel for them, which means he does have an element of control, but in spite of this he always ends up agreeing to the dates that suit PIL. They are not retired and return to work on 4 Jan so basically come to us for all of the spare time they have. They would come on Boxing Day if we let them but we have at least managed to convince them that we need our space then.

Last year we were in the same situation, both in full-time jobs. We went to my grandmother’s from Xmas Eve to Boxing Day and returned home on 27 Dec late morning. PIL were due that evening but showed up during the afternoon because they’d managed to get an earlier ferry, even though OH had been quite clear with them that we would not be ready to welcome them (unpacking, doing laundry, getting flat ready etc) before the evening. OH told them they weren’t being reasonable and they told us that they hadn't considered it from our point of view.

What makes me feel guilty at being annoyed is that PIL are lovely to us when we stay with them, feed us lovely home-grown food and let us relax. They have a large house with 2 spare rooms, so we can all spend time together without getting on top of each other, and the weather is always good so we spend a lot of time outdoors. When they come to us, PIL are not difficult guests other than FIL having a few little irritating habits (e.g. leaving toilet seat up) that are easy enough to ignore most of the time.

Last year PIL were so tired from the journey that they just sat on the sofa for 2 days, not interacting with DC not doing anything to help me. I found it hard to keep them entertained. OH was only able to have a couple of days off out of the 6 that his parents were here. This year he says he will try and take more time off, but it is pretty likely that he will have to cancel the days off and go in. I don’t drive, so we cannot go very far afield if OH is not around, and PIL do not speak any English at all, so are completely dependent on me to interpret for them whenever we do go anywhere.

I also currently have to interpret what DC says for PIL as DC does understand their language but does not speak it in full sentences yet. FIL largely ignores my efforts and makes little effort to try and grasp any words at all in English. He also likes to spend a lot of time comparing culture in the UK with his own culture, which starts to grate after a couple of days as he says the same stuff every time they visit.

Although we now live in a larger flat, we do not have a spare room. PIL will be sleeping in the small dining room/playroom on an inflatable bed that will have to be shoved out of the way every morning so we can have breakfast. PIL live in a very rural area with a large garden and have chickens, goats etc. As a result they are constantly in and out of their house. But when they are with us they end up cooped up indoors unless I suggest something and pretty much push them out the door, even though they have visited our town several times now.

I think it really bothers me that I have adapted to their culture and that they have not really adapted to mine.

I have just had an argument with OH because once again I wasn’t given a say in the dates that he’s agreed with his DP. He says that I did agree, and that I agreed last year as well. But there is no way I would ever have accepted such a long stay, not when I’m the one that has to do all the entertaining / organising. He just informs me which dates have been chosen, which is definitely not the same as asking me what I think and taking my preferences into consideration. He never normally behaves like this.

OH admitted last night that he hasn’t actually booked the travel yet, so I asked him to consider booking flights instead of a ferry and for a shorter period such as from 29 Dec to 2 Jan, and to just inform his DP that that is what suits us best. It would make more sense because PIL would be much less tired and much less bored, and we might all appreciate the time we have together more. Not to mention we wouldn’t have to find somewhere for them to leave their car (we live in an area with very restricted parking). It would also mean OH was keeping his promise of making things less difficult for me this year.

OH has said that not living in the same country as PIL justifies the length of the visit. I get that Xmas is important to them, but it doesn’t make sense to me that they would come for such a long time when their son is not around to spend time with them (he will have a lot more availability from January onwards) and the days are so short and dark.

I have told him I have nothing against seeing them. I just find 6 days is too much and I am really annoyed that I don’t get a say in it. I have told him I would be happy for PIL to come and stay more often for long weekends during the year.

I am dreading having to entertain PIL, meal plan, prepare food, do extra washing up etc for 6 whole days when I could be taking it a bit more easy. But more importantly than that I am particularly worried about managing PIL’s expectations, as OH has confessed to me that unlike my parents they expect to see us every year at Xmas. It certainly already feels like a pattern has been established.

Thank you if you've read this far.

AIBU to be pissed off that my wishes are being ignored or am I just making a big bah humbug fuss about nothing?

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 17:17

@Reallybadidea I do the domestic stuff because he is not here to do it. He would if he was. He always used to pull his weight when he worked less demanding hours. We cannot afford any kind of help currently.

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Dutch1e · 14/11/2019 17:17

He's volunteering your time. Every day by the sounds of it bit especially in a hosting situation.

I'd be fine with both of us hosting at any other time when life was going on as normal and DH was the one shopping, cooking, making beds and cleaning bathrooms but no way would I give up that precious week of pyjamas and rest.

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Dutch1e · 14/11/2019 17:17

*but not bit

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HundredMilesAnHour · 14/11/2019 17:17

I'd book a nice AirBNB for you and the DC and go there for a few days. Leave your OH to sort his parents out.

You need to put your foot down or this is clearly going to happen every year. That means there will be upset and drama this year in order to stop your OH and/or his parents getting their own way. But you need to be prepared for the drama now as this is the only way you will get the future Christmases you want. More pain today for less pain tomorrow basically.

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Sleepyhead19 · 14/11/2019 17:17

We have a similar issue. (Now ex) partner arranges for his parents to visit and doesn’t take time off for it. A couple of weeks ago was half term and I booked time off to decorate and see the kids more. While I decorated, he was taking the kids to theirs for a couple of days while I got the worst done. They suddenly decided they were visiting us instead. A wasted week off (last before a new baby) and I had to entertain instead. That’s the first occasion I have even known they were visiting in two years!!! Usually he doesn’t tell me and they just turn up. He won’t take time off for it.
Now I am decorating on my two days off a week while heavily pregnant and with everyone else here, in the hope I get it done (with no help) before the baby arrives.
I’m also dreading what the visiting arrangements will be when the new baby comes because my ex will have moved out and I don’t really want them here. I am putting my foot down that they can visit for an hour or so and that’s it. I know they are travelling a long way but when I’ve just had a baby, I don’t want to be left to entertain the exes parents and make constant hot drinks, which I always have to do. If they are staying for a few days , they can visit each day but they will need to consider me for a change.

I don’t think you are being unreasonable at all. I’ve had my in laws here for 3 days in a small house and it was a nightmare, so cramped and uncomfortable. It’s absolutely unfair of your OH to expect you to put up with it.

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Tooner · 14/11/2019 17:18

What would really annoy the hell out of me is him saying you agreed when you absolutely know you didn't. I would be telling him they need to stay elsewhere and come for a shorter length of time especially as he expects you to entertain them knowing full well he will be at work.

If he didn't agree I would be going to my parents for a few days over Christmas and he can sort out his own parents himself.

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Countryescape · 14/11/2019 17:22

Well tell him they can come but that he has to be there everyday to look after them. If he can’t then tell him you won’t be there and are heading to your parents. It’s ridiculous OP. Just say No! If you’re not willing to do that, you only have yourself to blame.

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NoSauce · 14/11/2019 17:23

Jesus that’s long.

Is there a summary?

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 14/11/2019 17:25

Presumable your OH won't be working over Christmas so he can look after PIL and you can take yourself off to your parents for a couple of days of rest?

Either that or put your foot down. Firmly.

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 17:26

@NoSauce OH has allowed in-laws to come for 6 days after Xmas but will not have time off work so I will have to use my Xmas break hosting them. Already overrun working full-time with toddler to look after and OH working 7-day weeks.

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MumsTh3W0rd · 14/11/2019 17:27

You need a Cake and a cuppa love

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VeryGenuinequestions · 14/11/2019 17:27

Op, confess to to your dh that it's not your expectation to host them every single Xmas.

It's too much and it's not fair. This is the type of thing that causes people's mental health to suffer and eventually your and pils or your and dh relationship to break down..

I'm afraid you will have to say no op.

Come to a compromise at another time. Say you have too much on your this Xmas and next rime they do visit it will need to be in a air b n b.

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VeryGenuinequestions · 14/11/2019 17:28

Mary, just say no. This is your life and your time too.

It's very easy to say, this isn't going to work for me so no.

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TurquoiseDress · 14/11/2019 17:29

YANBU

I say get them booked into an air b&b nearby!

Been there, got the t-shirt with in-laws sleeping on our living room floor for 1 month after DC2 was born, have most certainly not forgiven DH for this!

Yours is only for 6 days but I can sympathise with the feeling of being packed in like sardines, plus I presume there is only 1 bathroom etc.

Why do you have barely any say in this scenario? it's your time that you have taken, to be with your child whose childcare is closed over the holidays.

It does not seem fair at all, your DH has the flexibility of going into work at the drop of a hat, as he knows you are at home for the duration as the child that is both of your responsibility.

I think your PILs are BU to insist on seeing you every year for Christmas- couldn't you make it so that one year you fly out to them and the next year they come to you?

I think your DH needs to step up a bit and either shorten their stay or ensure that he is going to be off work so he can be present and look after his own parents, rather than you doing all this!

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Greenglassteacup · 14/11/2019 17:32

Say no?

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ranoutofquinoaandprosecco · 14/11/2019 17:33

Why don't you cancel the holiday you've taken from work get your pils to watch your DC and then take that holiday at a later date and get some one on one and be able to relax!
If it's hard work they may not stay as long next time! Wink

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WhatchaMaCalllit · 14/11/2019 17:34

These are your options.

  1. Get OH to tell his parents that the planned duration of their stay doesn't work this year and provide them with alternative dates and you stay there with the kids while they are there.
  2. Book PiL into a Travelodge/AirBnB for the duration of their stay as you are concerned that they are on and air bed and they have no privacy at all when they stay in your home. An actual bed is far better for them to be sleeping on rather than an air bed surely (air of concern at their age they shouldn't be on airbeds).
  3. If none of the above are suitable, then take yourself and your kids to your own parents for some of their stay (say 3 days) so you get some of your Christmas break too.
  4. Tell your OH that if this happens again, you'll actually take you and the kids to your parents place for all of Christmas and New Year for 2020-2021 and he can entertain his parents himself. For the whole time they are staying.


Best of luck!
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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 17:35

@ranoutofquinoaandprosecco Now there's an idea!

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ranoutofquinoaandprosecco · 14/11/2019 17:39

@MaryEli we're hosting my parents this year for Xmas and then the pils and my bil, sil and DN for New Year. I started a new job in September and could have Xmas off but having never asked for any help with childcare (both sets of DB's on each side have always had it, it's because we don't live in our home town) we have asked this year!
I think the GPS will enjoy the time with the DCs without me and my DP there and me and DP can then save our holidays for another time!

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NeedAnExpert · 14/11/2019 17:39

I wouldn't enable this for all the tea in China.

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plightofthealbatross · 14/11/2019 17:39

I would be very blunt: he is home during those 6 days entertaining your parents, or you're taking the children to your parents for the week and he can explain it to them.

He's not being fair or reasonable. You're not the default 'entertainer' because you have a vagina.

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HuggedTrees · 14/11/2019 17:39

Seriously, tell him you need a break so either he hosts them or they stay in a hotel, they do not stay with you or they come and visit in January or half term

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dontalltalkatonce · 14/11/2019 17:42

So you say NO. Seriously! NO, I'm not hosting them and then take out a credit card and leave them all to it or go to your parents. Or just don't take time off work. Why should you when he won't? He treats you like a skivvy because you let him.

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katewhinesalot · 14/11/2019 17:43

Go back to work for those days. It'll be good bonding time for the pils to look after the GC. You can make cards for them to communicate basic needs.
If dp feels they need entertaining then he can make sure he has the time off.

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