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In-laws coming for 6 days after Xmas. Again.

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 16:42

Apologies that this is so long. I need to vent.

OH is from another European country and we see his parents, who live in his home country, 5 or 6 times a year, including staying with them for a week or two in the summer. They are in their late 60s/early 70s. We have a 3-year-old DC. We lived with PIL from when DC was 9 to 20 months old, so they got to spend a great deal of time with DC and they developed a special bond which I am pleased about.

Before I met him, OH was actually estranged from his DP for around 15 years. This will be the sixth consecutive year that they have spent time with their son over the Xmas period after he resumed contact with them.

My DP live in the same town as us and we see them once or twice a month, but not normally for very long. Last year we did not see them at all over Christmas. DF has been diagnosed with a long-term illness and this year we have decided to invite my parents for Xmas Day, along with my grandmother, who is 97. They are really touched we have asked them and I want to make it special for them.

OH is very in demand by his employer throughout November and December (working 7-day weeks) and does not currently know which days he can get off over Xmas other than the bank holidays. Because of the nature of OH’s job, I run the home and do pretty much all of the admin and childcare when DC is not at nursery. I also work full time. I do not have a weekend and am always shattered, but particularly so at the end of the year. I have been working from home for the past few months and managing household stuff during breaks but will be starting a new full-time office job at the start of December and will no doubt be more tired than usual.

Last year, OH’s parents came to stay with us from 27 Dec to 2 Jan, leaving on the morning I went back to work. We lived in a very small flat not much bigger than a studio with one main living area /kitchen, where PIL slept. It was very cramped and after 6 days I had more than had enough of us all being piled up like sardines. DP afterwards reassured me that we would put our foot down next time and not have them to stay for so long. Claiming that MIL gets ill every time she flies because she came down with a really nasty cold once, they had insisted on driving to see us (it’s several hundred km so more than a day each way) and taking the ferry.

I am off work for the days between Xmas and New Year because DC’s nursery will be closed. I would relish the chance of a bit of rest (as much as is possible with a 3-year-old in tow) between Xmas and and going back to work, but lo and behold OH has informed me that PIL are once again coming to stay with us from 27 Dec to 2 Jan (i.e. 6 nights and 6 full days), leaving once again on the morning I return to work.

To arrange this, OH and his parents have had discussions on the phone, always when OH is not home so I am not privy to what has been said. Just like last year, it has transpired that they will be driving and taking the ferry. I am totally convinced that they do this in order to stay for longer, because they need time to get over the journey and it would be too much to head back after 3 days. They need help with the internet so OH books their travel for them, which means he does have an element of control, but in spite of this he always ends up agreeing to the dates that suit PIL. They are not retired and return to work on 4 Jan so basically come to us for all of the spare time they have. They would come on Boxing Day if we let them but we have at least managed to convince them that we need our space then.

Last year we were in the same situation, both in full-time jobs. We went to my grandmother’s from Xmas Eve to Boxing Day and returned home on 27 Dec late morning. PIL were due that evening but showed up during the afternoon because they’d managed to get an earlier ferry, even though OH had been quite clear with them that we would not be ready to welcome them (unpacking, doing laundry, getting flat ready etc) before the evening. OH told them they weren’t being reasonable and they told us that they hadn't considered it from our point of view.

What makes me feel guilty at being annoyed is that PIL are lovely to us when we stay with them, feed us lovely home-grown food and let us relax. They have a large house with 2 spare rooms, so we can all spend time together without getting on top of each other, and the weather is always good so we spend a lot of time outdoors. When they come to us, PIL are not difficult guests other than FIL having a few little irritating habits (e.g. leaving toilet seat up) that are easy enough to ignore most of the time.

Last year PIL were so tired from the journey that they just sat on the sofa for 2 days, not interacting with DC not doing anything to help me. I found it hard to keep them entertained. OH was only able to have a couple of days off out of the 6 that his parents were here. This year he says he will try and take more time off, but it is pretty likely that he will have to cancel the days off and go in. I don’t drive, so we cannot go very far afield if OH is not around, and PIL do not speak any English at all, so are completely dependent on me to interpret for them whenever we do go anywhere.

I also currently have to interpret what DC says for PIL as DC does understand their language but does not speak it in full sentences yet. FIL largely ignores my efforts and makes little effort to try and grasp any words at all in English. He also likes to spend a lot of time comparing culture in the UK with his own culture, which starts to grate after a couple of days as he says the same stuff every time they visit.

Although we now live in a larger flat, we do not have a spare room. PIL will be sleeping in the small dining room/playroom on an inflatable bed that will have to be shoved out of the way every morning so we can have breakfast. PIL live in a very rural area with a large garden and have chickens, goats etc. As a result they are constantly in and out of their house. But when they are with us they end up cooped up indoors unless I suggest something and pretty much push them out the door, even though they have visited our town several times now.

I think it really bothers me that I have adapted to their culture and that they have not really adapted to mine.

I have just had an argument with OH because once again I wasn’t given a say in the dates that he’s agreed with his DP. He says that I did agree, and that I agreed last year as well. But there is no way I would ever have accepted such a long stay, not when I’m the one that has to do all the entertaining / organising. He just informs me which dates have been chosen, which is definitely not the same as asking me what I think and taking my preferences into consideration. He never normally behaves like this.

OH admitted last night that he hasn’t actually booked the travel yet, so I asked him to consider booking flights instead of a ferry and for a shorter period such as from 29 Dec to 2 Jan, and to just inform his DP that that is what suits us best. It would make more sense because PIL would be much less tired and much less bored, and we might all appreciate the time we have together more. Not to mention we wouldn’t have to find somewhere for them to leave their car (we live in an area with very restricted parking). It would also mean OH was keeping his promise of making things less difficult for me this year.

OH has said that not living in the same country as PIL justifies the length of the visit. I get that Xmas is important to them, but it doesn’t make sense to me that they would come for such a long time when their son is not around to spend time with them (he will have a lot more availability from January onwards) and the days are so short and dark.

I have told him I have nothing against seeing them. I just find 6 days is too much and I am really annoyed that I don’t get a say in it. I have told him I would be happy for PIL to come and stay more often for long weekends during the year.

I am dreading having to entertain PIL, meal plan, prepare food, do extra washing up etc for 6 whole days when I could be taking it a bit more easy. But more importantly than that I am particularly worried about managing PIL’s expectations, as OH has confessed to me that unlike my parents they expect to see us every year at Xmas. It certainly already feels like a pattern has been established.

Thank you if you've read this far.

AIBU to be pissed off that my wishes are being ignored or am I just making a big bah humbug fuss about nothing?

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SiriusBlackAndHisHippogriff · 14/11/2019 17:44

Christ you could have explained all that in two paragraphs!

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5zeds · 14/11/2019 17:44

What do you want to happen? How do you want it to work?

Your house, your husband, your money, your child.

Work out what you want and then say it.

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KurriKurri · 14/11/2019 17:45

I can understand your PIL wanting to stay a reasonable ampunt of time if they've had to travel a long way. But that doesn;t mean they have to spend the whole of thier time with you. Your DH is the one being difficult - either he takes off all the time his Parents are staying, or he takes off tow dyas and they stay for those tow days and go to an airbandb for the rest of the time and do their own thing.- - maybe have a meal out with you all on one of those days but essentilly they have a holiday, but you are not the entertainer/cook/etc for your PIL.
Your DH has no right to decide what you do with your time, this is your holiday from work, you are entitled to relax and recharge for the new year.
How would he like it if you invited your friends or relatives to stay for a week and then buggered off leaving him to do everything ? He's a very selfish man.

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 17:48

@SiriusBlackAndHisHippogriff you're right but I needed to get it all off my chest, that's why I apologized at the start

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Whoops75 · 14/11/2019 17:52

I think they are being very unreasonable to stay 6 night in an one bedroom flat.

I think your dh is very selfish to leave all the hosting to you.

I think for the 6 days dh should take a minimum of 3 days off and you should work 2/3 days. Have one full day together but otherwise share the load.

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fedup21 · 14/11/2019 17:53

Have you decided what to do?

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elmosducks · 14/11/2019 17:58

In a similar situation, except mil doesn't drive and flights are only twice a week. I have put a limit to weekends so DH has to be there.
Can they not fly?

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ukgift2016 · 14/11/2019 17:59

You work full time and do ALL the housework and childcare? Great deal you have there.

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Almostfifty · 14/11/2019 17:59

How about he books them into a B&B for a night halfway on the way to you, then the same on the way back? They're then only staying four nights, but will be with you five.

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BouquetOfRoses · 14/11/2019 18:04

That sounds awful, I would say your home is too small to have anyone stay more than one night.

Also it's completely unfair that during your only break you will be hosting! Your DH needs to explain that he is unlikely to have any days off except the public holidays and it would be best for them to visit in January when he can spend time with them and entertain them but they will need to stay in a hotel or an Air B&B

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Reallybadidea · 14/11/2019 18:04

If his job is so demanding that he can't do anything domestically at all (how would he manage if he was single?) yet can't afford any outsourcing, then it is simply unsustainable in the long term with a partner and child.

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MaryEli · 14/11/2019 18:07

@Lostkeysinaraindrainurghh They certainly think it's normal that I should do all the grafting at home. Last time they were here I left the buggy at the bottom of the stairs for OH to carry in when he got home and they said "You can't do that. OH does so much." For them what I do isn't work apparently. But OH does not share their attitude. He always used to pull his weight before he got this job and if he ever is at home he gets on with housework, childcare etc exactly as he should. That's what makes it hard - I would never have settled for a situation where I was the skivvy.

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Disfordarkchocolate · 14/11/2019 18:08

If he books the long stay I'd go and stay with your family for the first 3 days. For someone who was no contact for several years, he's soon become very compliant ( but only for you).

I think you really need to reconsider the lack of help, one day you may well wake up and decide life would be easier without my husband because he's no bloody help and adds lots of extra work.

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DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 14/11/2019 18:10

You can either make a massive fuss about this and flatly refuse to do all the work of hosting his parents, or you can do it until they die. Your husband is managing to make a show if being a dutiful son while never actually having to spend much time with his parents, so there is currently no incentive for him to change the arrangements.

As things stand, your husband probably thinks that you will moan and grumble, but in the end you will pick up the slack and get on with all the work. He's been right about that so far, but it needs to change. How exactly you do that depends on one thing- to what extent do you think he is encouraging his boss to give him extra work? Could he really and truly not change his hours/insist on taking his days off? Or do you suspect he is saying that he wants all the overtime he can get?

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Considermesometimes · 14/11/2019 18:13

I am in the same position with my own parents, they are now staying at a reasonably priced hotel nearby (air bnb also offer great options) and that is that. They will spend much of the day with us, but not all day every day.

It does not 'how they will take it' - you are being a doormat op. It is your house, your life and your one and only break.

We have devised a 'timetable' so no one is together for too long. Your OH needs to take time off, and when he is hosting your parents then you have your in house baby sitters, and you go out! Go and have a massage, a coffee in peace, get your nails done. Every day you should enjoy a lie in, and a couple of hours to enjoy yourself.

OH needs to stop expecting so much from you, you are in burn out territory. Seriously you are, I have been there, and regret I allowed it all to pile up. OH needs to tell parents yes of course it would be lovely to see them, but these are the conditions, and op will be having a rest as she is working full time and with a small child is exhausted.

They can either accept or decline, not your problem either way.

I was expecting the worst when I sent my text, waiting for the protests that won't be the same etc etc, but they were actually fine about it.

You are going to be doing this every year forever unless you draw up boundaries now, and God help you if you decide to have a second child.

OH needs to tell them the new christmas arrangements. End of.

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Antigon · 14/11/2019 18:13

@Sleepyhead19

Now I am decorating on my two days off a week while heavily pregnant and with everyone else here, in the hope I get it done (with no help) before the baby arrives.
I’m also dreading what the visiting arrangements will be when the new baby comes because my ex will have moved out and I don’t really want them here. I am putting my foot down that they can visit for an hour or so and that’s it. I know they are travelling a long way but when I’ve just had a baby, I don’t want to be left to entertain the exes parents and make constant hot drinks, which I always have to do

Will they really expect to stay with you even though he is your ex now?! Shock

It’s not your job to host then. If you let them come over to see the baby I sure as hell wouldn’t be making them tea! Let ex take them out.

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ILoveYou3000 · 14/11/2019 18:14

Don't be such a cow. It's only 6 days and they are his parents

And yet he very likely won't be there to see them so all the hosting is left to the OP. Perhaps she'd be less of 'a cow' if her husband was around to do his share of hosting his parents.

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CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 14/11/2019 18:17

I think that 6 days in your set up is crazy BUT would think you should probably duck it up if your husband was going to be there the whole time to host his parents.

That he thinks it's reasonable to give up YOUR time to do this would really boil my piss. It's not for him to decide how you get to spend your precious time off work. Especially to host parents that until recently he was non contact with!!!

In your shoes my stance would be that I was happy for them to stay if:

  1. he was off work for the entire time of their stay (I'd then cancel at least some of my leave to take another time, perhaps keeping 1 or 2 days to do stuff all together)

  2. his parents agreed to look after your child, then I'd cancel my leave and take another time

  3. he books flights for them so they stay a maximum 3 nights (or whatever you'd be happy with)
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Quartz2208 · 14/11/2019 18:18

The thing is OP you keep on saying if he were there he could do more as if that isnt a choice he has

yet this is and he is still putting it on you and hasnt asked

You dont want it so say so

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Considermesometimes · 14/11/2019 18:18

Don't be such a cow. It's only 6 days and they are his parents

How dare you guilt op! She works full time and has a small child. Christmas is exhausting and it is for 6 whole bloody days! No way should you even entertain op. They are ALL taking advantage of you.

Foot down. There will be a huge weight lifted once you have sorted this out properly.

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SlightlyWizened · 14/11/2019 18:19

Another vote for PILs staying elsewhere.
After long travel I think it's reasonable for them to stay 6 days but not with you in a one bedroom flat.
Also I think you should invent some pressing occasion that you and the children need to attend for at least one day so that they are forced to become a bit more self reliant.
And make it quite clear to your OH that you do not agree to this yearly chore and things will need to change.

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itllneverfitinthecar · 14/11/2019 18:20

You can either make a massive fuss about this and flatly refuse to do all the work of hosting his parents, or you can do it until they die

This. Have you had the "well it might be their last Christmas" guilt trip yet? Don't worry, it'll be along soon.

If he insists that they come and stay with you then you insist that he takes the whole time off work and looks after them/cooks/shops and generally entertains them.

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vincentsleftear · 14/11/2019 18:22

I had a similar situation with my late mother in law. After her husband died she would come to us every year from about the 22nd of December until the 4th of January.
Muggins here was stuck with all the cooking (for a fussy eater), cleaning, washing etc. My dad was the one who made me realise how unreasonable this was, and after many rows about the situation (I too was never consulted about dates), I took myself and my daughter off to my dad's after Christmas. I had already warned I would do this, but my husband never took me seriously. But when I'd got in from work one evening , and was met with "my mum's bed needs changing ", I took my daughter and left. (Incidentally it was OUR bed, as she would take our room and we would be in the spare room!)
It took this for me to be taken seriously, and caused a lot of bad feeling, but trying to reach a reasonable solution had failed, and I hit my breaking point. Don't let this happen to you!

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AlwaysCheddar · 14/11/2019 18:22

Your oh is a knob. Selfish too.

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