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Am I missing something here? Meghan Markle

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Whitehorseinthehill · 13/11/2019 16:15

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7679223/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-not-spending-Christmas-Sandringham.html

Sorry for the Meghan Markle thread and DM link, but I have found this really amusing today.

Story out today saying Harry and Meghan apparently aren't spending Xmas with the Queen this year. Lots of comments below blaming Meghan, saying she's isolating Harry from his family, saying the Queen must be really upset. Everyone at work was chatting about it today saying similar.

Am I missing something? I mean we don't even know if it's true. But even if it is, aren't they entitled to spend Xmas as they please? She has her own mother she may want to see.

Ok I get that it's the Queen and it's the usual tradition but is it really a big deal?

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StartupRepair · 14/11/2019 19:37

Thing is Harry does not need a boosted reputation internationally. His job is to represent the Queen, not chase Instagram likes.

QueenOfTheAndals · 14/11/2019 19:50

Hmm, it's not Bert and Laurie who are "not very well mentally" on any Meghan thread...

PortiaCastis · 14/11/2019 20:06

I would say presuming to know all about someone and their husband and family based on newspaper and online shite is rather different to say the least

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MarziPam · 14/11/2019 20:28

'She said “it all seems to be unravelling very fast”. Which doesn’t seem to be happening. A bit different to saying “Maybe the god parents names weren’t released because.....”

Nope, both speculation in the absence of actual facts. What you actually mean is it's ok for you to speculate but not others.

kierenthecommunity · 14/11/2019 20:57

I can't help feeling that the Queen is older now and who knows how many Christmases she will have

If she’s anything like her mum, possibly a decade’s worth.

Meanwhile Doria could be hit by a bus on Boxing Day.

MissEliza · 14/11/2019 21:12

Meanwhile Doria could be hit by a bus Exactly! And she is Archie's only grandmother so I think she's actually more precious. The Queen has eight great grandchildren (I think). I'm sure she can do without one on Christmas Day.
Personally I think the idea of a cosy Christmas in Frogmore cottage sounds lovely. However it seems logical to assume that Harry is pulling back from his family a bit and that's a shame.

Marcipex · 15/11/2019 00:30

I think missing one Christmas doesn’t mean anything.
Archie is too young to play with his cousins. Next year he’ll be running about and it will be quite different.

loseyourself · 15/11/2019 01:26

let them go and stay away, they are doing nothing for the monarchy at the moment. I am not from Great Britain and I think they they are ruinous to one of the age old traditions the world; that a lot of people like to see and believe in. It does not need updating. Stick to the rules or get fired.

GrimDamnFanjo · 15/11/2019 02:02

The thing is that the Royal lifestyle while financially sound is not really one of celebrity. It's about duty and doing what the Family want.
If you're a celebrity money can buy you a degree of privacy . If you are Royal it won't. Not will being Royal enable you to make real change unless you step outside like Diana did eg hiv, landmines
Money apart it's not so attractive and I wonder if Harry and Meghan think that perhaps a lifetime of duty is no kind of life at all?

DonKeyshot · 15/11/2019 04:55

I put 'Meghan Markle politics' into the google search engine and used the first result that came up as a link to illustrate a point I made on an earlier post.

The link was to a Daily Express article, a paper I've never bought nor do I read or necessarily believe its content despite the law of averages suggesting that some of it must be right.

I'm mystified as to why you've chosen to single me out, Lightkeeper, but I can assure you that you know nothing about me while your bias is clear for all to see.

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WineOrGinOrBoth · 15/11/2019 06:06

What a nasty & vindictive way to talk about a new mother Lostkeys

StoneofDestiny · 15/11/2019 06:24

Doria Ragland is a very classy and accomplished woman who is well educated with a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and a Master of Social Work. With these qualifications to become licensed as a social worker in the State of California, you must undertake an extensive criminal record background check”

Eileen Wood, a real estate assistant, said that the rumors about Ragland being sent to prison so Markle spent more time with her estranged father are baseless lies. The royal fan said that Markle lived with Thomas because her mom was working as a flight attendant.

StoneofDestiny · 15/11/2019 06:25

Think Samantha has joined the discussion?

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LaurieMarlow · 15/11/2019 07:16

Well I think suggesting an Occam’s razor explanation based on what’s known about the Godparents situation is rather different to gleeful, hand rubbing speculation that the marriage is in trouble, but I guess that’s just me Wink

And no they don’t have a ‘duty’ to drink cocktails in Sandringham, thus never seeing their own families on Christmas Day.

Funny, I don’t recall a single comment about how Kate was neglecting her ‘duty’ when she did this, not one.

LaurieMarlow · 15/11/2019 07:16

Does Andrew spend Christmas with the Queen? If so, I would keep my distance too

Good point. Not to mention racist Philip.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 15/11/2019 07:26

I remember plenty of comments Laurie some supportive but plenty not.

I always remember thinking how awful it was for Fergie post divorce to be apart from her dcs. I know it happens in divorce all the time but there was no expectation that the girls would ever be with her.

Tbh I don’t whose family is more dysfunctional- Harry’s or Meghan’s.

LaurieMarlow · 15/11/2019 07:29

Do you remember comments that said Kate, by swerving Sandringham was somehow not understand/avoiding her ‘duty’?

Because I really don’t.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 15/11/2019 07:33

Of course there were comments. It’s always the married in women that attract them though not the Royal males.

LaurieMarlow · 15/11/2019 07:35

Specifically around ‘duty’? That’s what I’m asking.

Itstheprinciple · 15/11/2019 07:49

I do think some people have short memories. A quick search and I found this thread being very personal about Catherine.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2475717-Kate-Middleton?pg=4&order=

Now, I'm not saying it's good to be horrible about either of them, but I do think this 'poor old Meghan' narrative is incorrect. They've all had negativity about them at some point, both Royals by birth and the married in royals.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 15/11/2019 08:02

Laurie I remember the comments but not what was actually said. I never remember whether I’ve eaten breakfast a few hours later never mind exact comments on people unconnected to me.

Itstheprinciple some of those comments are similar to those Meghan is getting.