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Am I missing something here? Meghan Markle

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Whitehorseinthehill · 13/11/2019 16:15

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7679223/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-not-spending-Christmas-Sandringham.html

Sorry for the Meghan Markle thread and DM link, but I have found this really amusing today.

Story out today saying Harry and Meghan apparently aren't spending Xmas with the Queen this year. Lots of comments below blaming Meghan, saying she's isolating Harry from his family, saying the Queen must be really upset. Everyone at work was chatting about it today saying similar.

Am I missing something? I mean we don't even know if it's true. But even if it is, aren't they entitled to spend Xmas as they please? She has her own mother she may want to see.

Ok I get that it's the Queen and it's the usual tradition but is it really a big deal?

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TwatCat · 14/11/2019 11:46

I'll go instead, I was born the same day as Meghan. It could've been me 🤔

LaurieMarlow · 14/11/2019 11:48

Obviously'? Are you psychic? You have no idea and are just speculating which is not allowed when other people do so.

Well it stands to reason. Firstly, one of Harry's toff mates was as good as named in the press, so he (and they) clearly didn't have an issue.

Secondly, if you look at the likely candidates on Meghan's side, some of them had already spoken out strongly about the press's behaviour and I can understand why they wouldn't have given them further ammunition.

LaurieMarlow · 14/11/2019 11:50

I don't 'give a shit', but they have their royal procedures in place. If they are going to take the money they should follow the admittedly archaic, but still royal protocols.

Is this a 'protocol'? Source please.

And even if it is, someone in admin fucked up, it was quickly rectified. I do not see how Joe Public lost out by not knowing the exact second MM went into labour, what a fucking mountain out of a molehill.

MarziPam · 14/11/2019 11:50

'And I am not a fan of the view that you’re not allowed to feel crap about aspects of your life because other people’s lives are worse.'

Who said that? That is if course nonsense.

The point was they were there to 'shine a light' on their causes, not to moan about the press. It wasn't the time or the place for their over sharing.

wondering7777 · 14/11/2019 11:54

William has made it clear at public events he has no interest in engaging with Meghan.

How can we be sure of this? I know there have been photos in the DM of William and Meghan looking awkward at events, but surely they take thousands of pictures and then just use the ones that will generate clicks (such as William seemingly ignoring Meghan). Who knows, in the next lot of frames he could be turning round and chatting to her!

MarziPam · 14/11/2019 11:56

'Well it stands to reason. Firstly, one of Harry's toff mates was as good as named in the press, so he (and they) clearly didn't have an issue.'

Ah. It 'stands to reason'. So you are speculating. Are you a journalist?Grin

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2019 12:13

it was the focus of the whole documentary

I'm not sure that's any more accurate than the attempts to minimise it, and I'm certainly not going to sit with a stopwatch since watching it was bad enough the first time. It almost doesn't matter though, when the real fuss was about what was said and where they said it

It is true that their appalling self absorption was all everyone talked about, and true again that this isn't very fair. But life isn't always fair and Harry especially should have known how it would be perceived, kept his mouth shut and suggested his wife do the same

Rightly or wrongly public perception is largely what the RF's about now; some care about the smaller, sometimes inaccurate details and some don't, but they all contribute to the whole. Is it really too much to ask that they give this a bit more thought in return for their colossal privilege?

MarziPam · 14/11/2019 12:28

'I'm not sure that's any more accurate than the attempts to minimise it'

Yes sorry, not the focus of the documentary but more the only bit that was discussed afterwards which was a shame. It wasn't the time or place to have done the poor me thing.

So not the focus but the more attention grabbing bit.

MissEliza · 14/11/2019 12:58

It's interesting they've decided not to go to Sandringham when tradition was broken a couple of years ago with Meghan being the first fiancé invited for Christmas. I feel like MM jumped into the royal circus feet first and discovered it's nothing like as fun as it looked so she's pulling back now.
I know this is massively speculating but I think MM doesn't 'do' big families. If you look at how she grew up, you can see she didn't have a big close extended family. Some people who grow up without one are happy to be part of one when they marry. Others aren't. I have that problem with my SIL. She just wants Xmas with my db and the dns. She doesn't even invite her dps and they spend Xmas alone. It's her right I suppose but as my parents become older and less mobile, I have to pick up the slack. (Irrelevant I know but I'm just venting!)

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Whitehorseinthehill · 14/11/2019 13:06

I have that problem with my SIL. She just wants Xmas with my db and the dns. She doesn't even invite her dps and they spend Xmas alone. It's her right I suppose but as my parents become older and less mobile, I have to pick up the slack. (Irrelevant I know but I'm just venting!)

You sound a right pita. How do you know it's not what your brother wants too? Why are you blaming sil.

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MissEliza · 14/11/2019 13:31

@Whitehorseinthehill how on earth do I sound like a right pita? Why must people get personal so quickly on MN? You try being the sibling who has to do all the things involved with taking care of elderly parents and see how you feel: Yes you're right my db probably wants it that way too. I guess they wouldn't be married if they didn't see things similarly.

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Whitehorseinthehill · 14/11/2019 13:47

MissEliza because your post is exactly the same as why I started the thread.

There you are blaming your sil for what is just as much your brothers choice. Your parents are your brothers mum and dad not your sils, he should step up.

It's just like how the press are slating Meghan for where they spend Xmas. Presumably she isn't holding a gun to Harry's head.

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MissEliza · 14/11/2019 14:05

I agree with your point about my db Op and I personally think Harry is also happy to step back from his own family and their traditions. He's looked quite glum on several occasions over the last year.

SunsetBoulevard3 · 14/11/2019 16:45

He's looked quite glum on several occasions over the last year.

That's the understatement of the year, he looks bloody miserable all the time .

SunsetBoulevard3 · 14/11/2019 16:46

I feel like MM jumped into the royal circus feet first and discovered it's nothing like as fun as it looked so she's pulling back now. That's what I think too.

The80sweregreat · 14/11/2019 17:38

I feel the press have been vile and have picked away at Meghan since day one but honestly I can't really see this marriage ending well. I really hope I'm wrong (and it's only going on what I've seen on line etc etc ) but I think she is finding it harder than she thought it would be and the feud that the brothers have does seem real. I think the pressure will get to them. It's all nothing to do with me of course, but I just can't help feeling that it won't be a very long marriage.
Marriage is hard enough without all the other things they have to put up with.
Maybe they will just walk away from it all but that wouldn't be easy for him to do.
That guild edge cage has bars as others have pointed out on these threads about royalty!

PortiaCastis · 14/11/2019 17:42

How can anyone know about the marriage of people they've never met

SunsetBoulevard3 · 14/11/2019 17:53

I agree @The80sweregreat. It all seems to be unravelling very fast. I don't think Harry would be able to break away from the RF and live a private life without huge guilt. I can't see Meghan putting up with the circus much longer either .It's a shame the brothers and their wives couldn't be a support for each other and close. After all, they have two boys a year apart. I suspect M doesn't particularly like William and Kate and so a gap has opened up between the two couples.

Bluerussian · 14/11/2019 17:57

I feel the same way as the80sweregreat, they seem such a nice couple and I think, if they did split up, Harry would be particularly gutted. Presumably Meghan would return to the states and her career, Harry would go out to the USA regularly to see Archie. I would really like them to stay together though.

Portia, you're right, no one can know about the marriage of people they've never met, we don't always know about those we have met!

To poster or posters a while back on this thread who said the documentary M&H made in Africa was an excuse for them to have a moan - they didn't moan. They were both asked questions and answered honestly but that didn't take up much time, the doc was good.

BertrandRussell · 14/11/2019 18:45

“ I agree @The80sweregreat. It all seems to be unravelling very fast.”

Do you have access to loads of information the rest of us don’t have? Or are you basing this on the fact that a newish family have chosen to spend Christmas with a different parent to the one they spent last Christmas with?

MarziPam · 14/11/2019 19:14

'Do you have access to loads of information the rest of us don’t have? '

She's maybe speculating, just like posters who think they know the reason god parents names weren't released?

Loosenisous · 14/11/2019 19:30

Meghan on the other hand is slowly leading Harry to a meaningful and substantial existence for himself outside of the royal family. She gives him substance and has definitely boosted his reputation internationally no matter what the Uk racists say

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Loosenisous · 14/11/2019 19:35

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BertrandRussell · 14/11/2019 19:36

“She's maybe speculating, just like posters who think they know the reason god parents names weren't released?“

She said “it all seems to be unravelling very fast”. Which doesn’t seem to be happening.

A bit different to saying “Maybe the god parents names weren’t released because.....”

Mummyshark2019 · 14/11/2019 19:37

I think it's disgusting the way the press treat Meghan. It needs to stop. It's not right.

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