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Jeremy Corbyn - PM by default?

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Considermesometimes · 06/11/2019 09:20

I am not a 'woke' labour supporter. I come from a long line of many generations of stout labour supporters. It would be unthinkable up to now in my family for anyone to vote for any other party. I would be shown the door at my gp's house for even having this conversation.

However, I am seriously seriously worried, I would go as far as to say terrified of the prospect of voting for Labour this time, and Jeremy Corbyn actually becoming Prime Minister.
I am interested to know how others are dealing with this problem.

I am worried that some of the policies such as seizing assets and homes from people, massive taxes etc. We are home owners and work very hard, it could all be jeopardised.

Forced closure of private schools in this area would be a complete and utter disaster. As it is we have to finish early on Friday afternoons, and do not have funds for every day stationary much less hundreds of extra children. What would happen to our already very full classes of 33-38 with all the extra children from the private schools? How is this even possible? And yet it seems Labour are fully committed to it when pressed on the issue.

The huge privatisation plan of utilities looks to cost around 200 billion pounds. I don't want our money spent this way! I would much prefer better schools and hospitals, and crime to be under control in this part of the country. I can't even get a GP app for my asthmatic dd at the moment. I could not care less about the Utilities or the railways etc. The LP just do not seem to understand at the moment what matters to most people.

The whole defence and nuclear issue. I don't feel we live in a particularly safe world. I like the fact we have some defences against the nut jobs in the Middle East or North Korea. The fact that other countries would not trust the UK under Corbyn to share intelligence with us, and his lack of decision making in a crisis, or even his basic understanding of deterrents is deeply disturbing.

I just don't think Corbyn is up to the job in any shape or form. Nor do most of the party.

I have thought about voting Lib Dems, but looking at the numbers that will almost certainly result in Corbyn being PM. There is almost no chance at all of Lib Dems getting 326 seats. A vote for Lib Dems is a vote for a Labour government probably propped up by the SNP who will demand another independence referendum in six months.

I am livid with the party for allowing this to happen, how is Corbyn still the leader of the party it is beyond me. How has this been allowed to happen? Chuka Umunna would have made an excellent PM, but all the best candidates are leaving the Labour party.

I don't think I can vote for anyone. That is my final conclusion, for the first time in thirty years I will not vote. What are you planning to do?

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IceCreamConewithaflake · 06/11/2019 16:37

OP you vote in secret. None of your relatives will know who you vote for.
Please use your vote, whichever way you choose, but please vote.

Alsohuman · 06/11/2019 16:45

Sociopaths indeed @MustardScreams. Breathtaking, isn’t it?

CendrillonSings · 06/11/2019 16:49

Sociopaths indeed @MustardScreams. Breathtaking, isn’t it?

Well, since Conservatives are rather more numerous than Cult voters, that would imply that a sizeable proportion of the country are sociopaths. Or that you’re talking shite. Could be either, I guess! Grin

BertrandRussell · 06/11/2019 16:55

“ Just as soon as those voters who want to tax the shit out of me and "redistribute" it to them admit their selfishness.”
Hang on- are you suggesting that all Labour voters are on benefits?

Willowcat77 · 06/11/2019 17:00

OP are you a real member? There was a report in the Guardian about how the Conservative party have hired people to spread this sort of hysterical right wing propaganda and misinformation on social media, posing as members of the public.

CendrillonSings · 06/11/2019 17:01

Hang on- are you suggesting that all Labour voters are on benefits?

No, but a lot of them are, and the cutting of benefits by the "evil Toriiiies" is all we ever hear about on here. Hence "those voters"!

Dapplegrey · 06/11/2019 17:02

It will be interesting when the upper middle classes join the state system. I wonder what stick they'll beat those teens with then? Big house? Tutor? Horses? Being top of the class?

Plenty of Labour politicians and voters are looking forward to this enormously. Just think of the fun they can have sneering at the ‘posh gits’. I’m sure they will be extremely creative in insulting poshos

Mjlp · 06/11/2019 17:02

I'm voting for Labour. I don't agree with all their policies & I'd prefer it is someone other than Corbyn was in charge. However, I think that what the conservatives have done to the sick, disabled, children and the most vulnerable in society is absolutely disgusting & disgraceful! The fact that this is 2019 Britain, yet children are going without food & their parents have to go to food banks is just totally abhorrent! Labour will look after the most vulnerable in society, so that's why I will be voting for them.

Mahatma Gandhi: 'The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members'.

BertrandRussell · 06/11/2019 17:03

“ No, but a lot of them are, and the cutting of benefits by the "evil Toriiiies" is all we ever hear about on here. Hence "those voters"
Blimey. I think you’ve gone a step too far this time- you’re a caricature, aren’t you?

Alsohuman · 06/11/2019 17:03

You may wish to brush up your maths @CendrillonSings

researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN05125

MustardScreams · 06/11/2019 17:04

Yoooo @CendrillonSings lets see some stats for the wild claim.

BertrandRussell · 06/11/2019 17:05

And considering only 9% of kids go to private school, there are plenty of the middle classes in state school already.

Alsohuman · 06/11/2019 17:06

I thought it was 7%

CendrillonSings · 06/11/2019 17:07

You may wish to brush up your maths

You may want to brush us on your reading ability. I said Conservative voters are more numerous than Labour voters, which they most certainly are.

Blimey. I think you’ve gone a step too far this time- you’re a caricature, aren’t you?

I often think you are. Can someone really be that obtuse in real life? I'm much more straightforward.

Moomin8 · 06/11/2019 17:12

I'm voting Labour because I want the Tories gone. They are unprincipled fascists as far as I can see. And the party has shifted hard to the right since David Cameron left.

Alsohuman · 06/11/2019 17:12

Conservative voters are more numerous than Labour voters, which they most certainly are

Evidence please given your record for making it up as you go along.

CendrillonSings · 06/11/2019 17:13

Evidence please given your record for making it up as you go along.

Are you bonkers? Quote me a single opinion poll currently showing a Labour lead!

Spoiler alert: there aren't any.

Moomin8 · 06/11/2019 17:14

I think a lot of people vote conservative because they don't see any other choice. Most of those are unwilling to accept that they themselves are being shafted by their politics.

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Alsohuman · 06/11/2019 17:16

You and your polls. How many times do you have to be told only one poll counts and that’s on 12 December. May was expecting a landslide in 2017 based on polls. That went well.

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CendrillonSings · 06/11/2019 17:19

May was expecting a landslide in 2017 based on polls. That went well.

Well enough - the stupid socialist was kept out of power, and hopefully the same will be true after this election too! Grin

Moomin8 · 06/11/2019 17:23

May was, by all accounts hysterically sobbing after the results of the last election 😬

CendrillonSings · 06/11/2019 17:27

May was, by all accounts hysterically sobbing after the results of the last election

The winner wept, the loser cheered - such is life.

MaMaMaMySharona · 06/11/2019 17:28

CendrillonSings

Can you show me where you’re getting your information about you being taxed heavily under a labour government? Even though you’ve been told it’s a minimal increase for those on over £85k?

Why would you not think it’s fair to tax higher earners slightly more to help people less fortunate? I’m talking people on minimum wage, barely able to pay for a roof under their heads, going to food banks...people with disabilities who cannot work. How do you think they’re faring under the current government? Or do you really just not care about them?