to think it's not that difficult to understand Labour's position on Brexit

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Apparently many people don't understand Labour's position. It's not that difficult to understand.

1. Renegotiate a better deal with the EU.
2. Put that deal to the people in a people's vote within 6 months
3. Enact the referendum
4. That's it

And yes,when it comes to the vote, people within Labour may have different views - some may want to remain, others to take the deal.

This is not about whether you agree with the position - that's a whole different thread - this is about whether the position is difficult to understand or not

Do you understand this policy?

Congratulations. This is the most naive comment I’ve read today.

Why? Why do we need some undemocratic supranational law to override our own if employments rights are so overwhelmingly popular and innately good?

It's almost as if you're afraid that the voters might not support your policy in an election. In which case, in a democracy, that policy deserves to lose, doesn't it?

How does Labour get more from Europe than the cons? I just don't see it. Why would a JC deal be better than a BJ deal? Don't say workers rights. A deal with the EU could completely ignore workers rights, and if labour have a majority, surely they can write new legislation independent of the EU?

And after he got this deal, would labour campaign for the public to vote for JCs magic amazing deal, or vote against it?

Juncker has said that the Labour party policy is not workable.

How can you negotiate “a better deal” while at the same time saying you are going to have a second referendum? In what parallel universe would the EU offer “a better deal” in these circumstances? They want the UK to remain and it would be in their interests to ensure the worst possible deal to ensure a second referendum returned a remain vote.

Labour might negotiate “a deal” which involved remaining in the Single Market and the Customs Union but that would negate the whole point of Brexit as UK would be bound by all the rules without having any say in them.

Seems to me that Labour policy on Brexit is to prolong the mess as long as possible and make sure the Tories own it, to enhance their own chances of getting elected. People would have to be very naive to believe that once in power long term Brexiters like Corbyn and McDonald would abandon their plans to renationalise and extend state aid - most of which would be be impossible under EU rules. So I do not believe they would reverse Brexit.

Which is why, if you want to remain, you have to vote LibDem.

Why? Why do we need some undemocratic supranational law to override our own if employments rights are so overwhelmingly popular and innately good?

It's almost as if you're afraid that the voters might not support your policy in an election. In which case, in a democracy, that policy deserves to lose, doesn't it?

Your comment assumes that parties will do what they say they’re going to do in a GE campaign, and won’t do anything else.

When we are scrabbling around for trade deals, what do you honestly think is going to happen?