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Husband not supportive of my need for maternity leave

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Bellyfish1 · 04/11/2019 08:26

I am a freelancer with one regular client who currently pays me for 4 days' work a week. I am also 31 weeks pregnant and worried how to manage maternity leave.
My husband is also self-employed and earns much more than me but is not supportive of me taking full time maternity leave and thinks I should try to keep on working through even the first months post-partum.
This will be my first baby but DH has 2 kids from previous relationship. Should be noted that his ex went on indefinite maternity leave although she will have received mat leave pay from her employer for the first few months.
As our finances are completely separate despite being married (owing to his trust issues since first partner left him), my husband expects me to continue to support myself through this pregnancy and beyond - it is also becoming clear that he expects me to pay for everything that will be needed for the baby.
This WAS a 'planned' pregnancy in that we were ttc for 2 years and even had IVF (failed) although when I did fall pregnant it was no longer expected and has been a minor miracle considering my age (42) and history (7 early miscarriages).
I have no assets as I lived abroad from age 25 to 35 and have never been able to get on the housing ladder, but I earn enough to get by.
My husband owns the house we live in and we share the bills. His reason for not letting me pay towards the house and getting named on the deeds is that he wants it to be for his children from first marriage, which I fully accepted, but now we have a baby of our own on the way I was hoping things might change.
In short, I feel very vulnerable and anxious and completely unsupported by my husband. I know he won't let us starve but this pressure to keep working (he thinks I should juggle things so my clients pay me for results rather than days worked) and my fear of not having my own income is ruining this time for me which I had dreamt of for so long.

OP posts:
Oliversmumsarmy · 04/11/2019 10:56

My husband owns the house we live in and we share the bills. His reason for not letting me pay towards the house and getting named on the deeds is that he wants it to be for his children from first marriage

He can want all he likes. It doesn’t work like that.

Please don’t be afraid of being a single mum.

You can make a claim against the house, you will get child support and you will have your freedom from this abuse

What more could you possibly want.

FWIW the single parents I know are all terrifically happy people who all say they would have to think long and hard before they could even consider moving someone in or getting married again.

Winesalot · 04/11/2019 10:56

OP you did not ruin it! You have no idea what the future after birth will be, nobody does until baby is here. So you are WISE to have plans in place and to not have to make plans after while recovering. Will you have any of your family around to help?

Truly, he knows what he is doing. There is more to this than an issue with money. From what you have written it really goes deeper.

KnobJockey · 04/11/2019 10:57

@Bellyfish1 Im currently on mat leave with a 6 week old from my employed job, and I have a small amount of self employed work too that I've been trying to still do. From being about 8 months pregnant to current, I really, really struggled to do this- were talking 1-2 hours a week, and a full day every month. It's so hard! Your head is filled with cotton wool, you're so tired you don't know what day it is, your baby wants to feed or be held whenever you want to do anything. My DP is supportive (which I don't think yours will be in a practical sense) but even then the baby needs ME. There have been lots of times when I'm the only one who can settle her. I wish I'd realised what it was going to be like, and I already have one! At this stage, however you try to avoid it, YOU are the default parent.

I won't get into the financial control, I think that's clear to see.

RichTwoTurkeyFriend · 04/11/2019 10:57

Firstly, I’m pretty sure that email (sent under what I’m sure constitutes duress) means jack shit and is not a legally binding get out of marriage free card.
Secondly, you didn’t ruin anything. The fact that you have been conditioned to think that having a reasonable conversation with your husband about finances following the both of your child is ruining things when he doesn’t get his own way, is indicative of control and abuse.
Think hard about whether you want your child growing up learning this disgusting, selfish behaviour from this prince among men. You and your baby deserve so so much more.

lazylinguist · 04/11/2019 10:58

This is really really awful. OP can you not see that this isn't about him 'not understanding' about you needing maternity leave? It's financial abuse and controlling behaviour. Whether it started as a result of his ex wife's behaviour or whether he was like that with her as well is not your problem. This is no way to be treated by the man who is supposed to love you. And how the hell does he justify thinking you should pay for everything for his baby?!

GertrudeCB · 04/11/2019 10:58

The sad truth is that he will not get better, only worse.

Autumnfields · 04/11/2019 10:59

I really wish women would think twice about getting involved with guys who haven’t been able to maintain a relationship where kids are involved. Women normally leave for a very good reason.

Whilst I would have agreed a while ago, now I see it isn’t good to blame a woman ever for getting involved with a ‘wrong’un’ as I’m sure the OPs DP presented as totally fine.

My exDP had his kids most of the time and his Ex said he was wonderful. I had waited years to find a good man and he was so it. However then realized the reason he had his kids was because his ex wife controlled him, the reason he was so good was because he had no ability to see what was right or wrong and was being manipulated, and the reason he started to be awful to me was because finally he had someone who was nice to him so he let loose all his anger and fustration on me because he was never going to be taken advantage of again by anyone!

NoSquirrels · 04/11/2019 11:00

When I say “tell him” - you need to put it in writing, in an email, in the same way that he made you email him to give up rights to the house.

You need a written evidence trail that you have tried to establish a fair and not financially detrimental solution, and offered mediation.

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2019 11:01

mediation might help things more than a little

No - he is trained in managing mediation, he will run rings round you based on your posts here. You might well benefit from solo marriage counseling to decide what you want to do.

You didn't ruin the holiday either - he lost his temper (staged or otherwise) because for a moment you showed disobedience to his wishes.

You have said what a great father he is, how is ex was the problem and he contributes lots to the DC. How do you know? Do you know anything about his finances or the house ownership independently of what he has told you?

The house could be owned by a trust rather than in his name specifically, from the beginning of this relationship he has been in complete control of all the decisions relating to finances and the relationship. Do you know anything about him and his previous relationships other than what he has told you?

lazylinguist · 04/11/2019 11:01

My guess is that he agreed to you having a baby but didn't really want one himself because he's already got children, so he basically thinks it's an expense and an inconvenience that you should deal with because it was you who wanted the baby, not him.

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2019 11:03

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Majorcollywobble · 04/11/2019 11:03

You and your soon to be born child have more rights to the marital home and assets than he seems to imagine .
So he has trust issues from his first relationship? That is why he is making your life is so tough and it’s totally unfair .
Without a radical shift of attitude on his part your love for him will be killed for sure . How awful for you - this time should be one of the happiest for you and he’s making it hell .
Get some legal advice . You may be better off without this husband who is not a husband in the true sense of the word . You sound successful on your freelance career and may be better off alone . At least you would have a chance at happiness with your child - with him life will always be a torment .

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2019 11:04

My guess is that he agreed to you having a baby but didn't really want one himself

Op stated that he was the driver behind ttc. Of course that doesn't mean he wanted a child, a wife with a child is much easier to control than a wife with an independent income.

sleepyhead · 04/11/2019 11:07

As I'm sure has already been mentioned, the house deeds and mortgage payments are a huge red herring. If he actually wanted to keep your finances separate then he shouldn't have got married.

He's either not half as clever as he thinks he is, or he thinks he can browbeat you into not being aware of your rights.

SleepingStandingUp · 04/11/2019 11:08

He just has very unrealistic ideas of what I can and should be able to do post-partum and how anxious my financial vulnerability is making me
Which at the best interpretation translates into he doesn't listen to you and doesn't care enough about what you're telling him about how you feel

MulticolourMophead · 04/11/2019 11:09

I would agree with the pp that say men like this with "trust issues" around finance have form for this.

My ex kept citing trust issues, that he had been burned once and didn't put me on the deeds (not married, more fool me).

Turns out he was financially abusive, his money was his, and so was mine.....

One reason he's an ex. You'd think that 3 decades together he should have been trusting me, especially the amount of money he eventually had from me, but no.

OP, save yourself the 30 years of misery I had, and LTB. It won't get any better.

NoSquirrels · 04/11/2019 11:11

I think what you really need to understand, OP, is that it doesn’t really matter what his motivations are, it matters what the outcome of his actions are.

If he has “trust issues” from a previous relationship then he needs to take action (counselling) so that he doesn’t act abusively towards you and your child - whether intentional or not.

If he keeps you financially vulnerable for any reason at all, his actions are abusive.

He needs to sort that out.

The responsibility is not yours.

lottiegarbanzo · 04/11/2019 11:11

Thank you @Deadringer - I think that's about all I can come with right now. I just worry that once the baby's born, he may use my financial vulnerability and fragile mental state (which, although not an issue past or present will, udging by comments here, be an inevitable consequence of trying to stick with this) against me should we ever have to fight over custody.

Part of me, albeit the part with a tendency to catastrophise, is tempted to leave before the baby is born to be sure that I won't have to battle for custody.

Yet I fear I am panicking. This might all blow over. Once baby arrives, the reality might hit him of how much I have to do and everything will fall into place.

This is so interesting. You swing from one extreme to the other, never pausing in the sensible, realistic zone in between.

It's as if you believe that you can cancel out one extreme though with the other. Thus failing to recognise that your reality may not exactly match that particular extreme - but it is really very bad and nowehere near normal.

You need to stop living inside your head, dealing in fantasies and start facing, assessing and acting upon cold, hard facts.

No, he can't use your normal, reasonable stress against you to gain custody. That will not happen. He won't want custody anyway. If he did, he wouldn't get it.

However, yes he will use your fragile state against you and yes his control will get worse.

No, he will not magically get better when the baby arrives. He will have you exactly where he wants you. Vulnerable and beholden.

Stop speculating and worrying. Get off the internet and go and see a real life solicitor. Get the facts. Understand the implications. Then make your decisions.

MulticolourMophead · 04/11/2019 11:12

I should have added that I'm good friends with my ex's ex, and he wasn't burned, he just objected to paying out her fair share as agreed in the divorce. Seems the issues I had were the same for her.....

Chocolatelover45 · 04/11/2019 11:13

You can get everything second hand but the major cost is loss of earnings. Your time can't be compromised on. Your baby needs it more than anything else.
You should plan for 3 months off. I managed to do some work during the first 3 weeks but it was really stressful, it was time I would rather have spent asleep, and it was only about 8 hours worth spread over several days. I was breastfeeding whilst typing. Now at 3 months I'd be happy to do a bit more but with a baby you only get an hour or 2 at a time, and you obviously need to do other things as well such as laundry, washing up, cooking, exercise, even if you don't bother with actually cleaning the house. The reality is that if you are working even 2 hours a day, you will sacrifice things like seeing friends or going out for a walk with the baby in the pram. Not worth it IMO.

Sassanacs · 04/11/2019 11:14

I know this isn't helpful but I just think he's an absolute twat. Even if his concerns over money were real that doesn't mean he gets to shirk contributing towards his new baby.

Awful situation, I really feel for you.

Personally I couldn't continue the relationship with someone like that.

calllaaalllaaammma · 04/11/2019 11:15

OP- you say that you have decided to take 6 weeks off- you are going to need longer than that.
You would need a partner who would be willing to do 50% of the work and I just don't see him doing that. During his last relationship, he was the provider and his wife looked after the kids.
You will need a minimum of 3 months, absolute minimum- then have some childcare in place.

myself2020 · 04/11/2019 11:17

I think there are 2 things here

  • he should definitely contribute to baby stuff. its his baby too, so should be according to income.
  • 12 months maternity leave are not a good idea for a freelancer with no assets (or anybody in a fast moving industry actually). 3-4 months off (and he needs to support you here!), then parttime is a much healthier approach.
DropOfffArtiste · 04/11/2019 11:19

Please contact Women's Aid. This is financial abuse and coercive control, which has the potential to escalate once the baby is born.

Stephminx · 04/11/2019 11:24

Yup, everything is lovely until you step out of line and ruin it.

As a PP suggested, please get yourself some professional advice (both legal and in relation to the abuse).

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