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Husband not supportive of my need for maternity leave

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Bellyfish1 · 04/11/2019 08:26

I am a freelancer with one regular client who currently pays me for 4 days' work a week. I am also 31 weeks pregnant and worried how to manage maternity leave.
My husband is also self-employed and earns much more than me but is not supportive of me taking full time maternity leave and thinks I should try to keep on working through even the first months post-partum.
This will be my first baby but DH has 2 kids from previous relationship. Should be noted that his ex went on indefinite maternity leave although she will have received mat leave pay from her employer for the first few months.
As our finances are completely separate despite being married (owing to his trust issues since first partner left him), my husband expects me to continue to support myself through this pregnancy and beyond - it is also becoming clear that he expects me to pay for everything that will be needed for the baby.
This WAS a 'planned' pregnancy in that we were ttc for 2 years and even had IVF (failed) although when I did fall pregnant it was no longer expected and has been a minor miracle considering my age (42) and history (7 early miscarriages).
I have no assets as I lived abroad from age 25 to 35 and have never been able to get on the housing ladder, but I earn enough to get by.
My husband owns the house we live in and we share the bills. His reason for not letting me pay towards the house and getting named on the deeds is that he wants it to be for his children from first marriage, which I fully accepted, but now we have a baby of our own on the way I was hoping things might change.
In short, I feel very vulnerable and anxious and completely unsupported by my husband. I know he won't let us starve but this pressure to keep working (he thinks I should juggle things so my clients pay me for results rather than days worked) and my fear of not having my own income is ruining this time for me which I had dreamt of for so long.

OP posts:
BrendasUmbrella · 04/11/2019 12:50

What lovely convenient trust issues that mean you pay for everything including the wedding and the the baby things and he gets all the benefits of being married without any of the annoying parts!

What is he going to do in future when his child needs something? Tell them "Sorry, trust issues, ask the piggy bank Bellyfish"

Mythreeknights · 04/11/2019 12:53

Everyone has said what needs to be said, but I wanted to reiterate the simple point that it's his child you are having - of course he needs to support it financially, particularly whilst you are on mat leave, and as a freelance mum myself, I went back to work when my DD was 14 weeks old (albeit mainly from home) and for what? The child benefit I gained in that time went straight back to the tax man in the July of that year, to pay my freelancing tax bill. In addition, I do regret not spending much more time with my little girl and wonder what on earth I was thinking at the time!

LightDrizzle · 04/11/2019 12:55

I think you should leave before the baby comes. Particularly given he is a solicitor and was so keen on having a baby. I expect he wants to make up for not having his other children with him, that may be another reason he wants you to be working, he doesn’t want you “hogging” the baby.
I think you have many reasons to be worried. He doesn’t want counselling because he knows what he wants is unreasonable and it will be confirmed. But he WANTS it.

Crazyladee · 04/11/2019 12:55

Your post has absolutely sickened me that some men treat their pregnant wives in this way.

You are most certainly being financially abused.

GettingABitDesperateNow · 04/11/2019 12:56

So he vets to put his money towards his future and kids future, while you put yours towards consumables and have nothing to show for it.

If his trust issues are so bad that he expects to have a baby without paying one penny towards it, then he needs serious help and shouldn't have committed to anyone or to having a baby before sorting himself out

Aquamarine1029 · 04/11/2019 12:57

Just get divorced because you don't have a real marriage, anyway. Your situation has left me speechless.

Bellyfish1 · 04/11/2019 12:58

He volunteered to pay for all the IVF because he earns a lot more than me and I couldn't afford to contribute (and wouldn't have considered it an option otherwise). Then, as the wedding drew closer and I had moved in, saving on rental costs, we agreed that I would pay for the wedding to balance things out. I wasn't best pleased as we had previously agreed to let me prioritise paying off my debts, but everything had been arranged by then and I felt bad about not paying my way in the house so I agreed it seemed fair.

Also, because he said he would've been happy with a quick £50 registry office wedding and was reluctant to do something a bit more special. It wasn't an extravagant do (50 guests - mostly from my side anyway) but it was enough to make it a lovely day.

I am aware that pregnancy hormones may be at play here. When I said he wouldn't let us starve, that was an extreme statement. He would want us to be okay. To be safe. I just don't think that he understands how difficult I am going to find work in the first couple if months.
He is wanting to cut his hours do he can help as well, that's how he thinks we'll manage, but as I want to breastfeed and as he doesn't really even see what needs to be done in the house in terms of cleaning/keeping on top of bits, I would prefer him to take whatever time off he wants a bit later on, when the baby is older and he is able to actually help with the childcare. Just reducing his hours in the first few weeks will just add to the pressure for me to return to work asap without actually relieving the demands on me from our newborn.
He doesn't appear to accept that this will be the case.

As for his ex, I know she was very hands-on and did almost all the childcare for the first couple of years. He says he's keen to be different this time, which is a relief but I will have to see it to believe it.

He is very good at being the 'fun' dad but I am not sure how valuable that skill will be for the practical stuff needing to be done in the first few months.

My greatest fear is that he wants this child more than he wants me. That he has 'lost' his first two children and, after going through awful custody battles, knows that yo have a chance in any future custody case, he must demonstrate that he is a hands-on father. He may well cut his hours to this end but it would be his word against mine as to how much care he then actually provides while I am rushed back to work.

I know this sounds mistrusting and over-anxious but his lack of trust in me has led me to feel that he is staying very much prepared for this all to disintegrate. I am, with regret, facing the fact that I too need to be prepared for this.

Despite everything, I do want us to be able to work on this. To trust and to find a way to communicate more positively and build a family but I am scared to go too far in trusting only to be burned if it ever comes to divorce.

I think, as some have suggested, I may have to take a week out and stay with famiky to think on this before making any big decisions.

OP posts:
Aashna · 04/11/2019 12:59

“What exactly is the point of him?”

This.

With every update it gets more unbelievable.

I’ve never heard of a woman whose husband sat back and let her pay for HER OWN WEDDING Shock

How does he possibly think that supporting his own child and wife through her maternity is somehow something optional?

You do realise no other husband on earth thinks this? (Or none that I’ve ever heard of anyway).

Why should his mother need to speak to him fgs! If he’s got this far with this attitude, I’d say he’s beyond help. He needs to man up, frankly. Mother needs to speak to him indeed!

TatianaLarina · 04/11/2019 12:59

Trust issues are the go to for abusive men to justify their behaviour.

My ex cheated on me so I can’t trust you so I must control your behaviour.

My ex fleeced me financially so I can’t trust you with money and must control it.

GettingABitDesperateNow · 04/11/2019 12:59

If you work from home I'd definitely consider seeing if you can move back in with your family for a bit. Sod the distance he isn't interested in doing the best for this child. I think you will end up leaving anyway- as much as you can just about put up with his disgusting treatment of you, I think it will kill you to see him treating your child so badly. It will be far far easier to leave now and get sorted before the baby

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2019 13:00

OP you work 4 days. How do you divide up the household chores and the mental load of running the home

OP stated she works full time, its one particular client who consumes four of those days.

Storsteinen · 04/11/2019 13:01

What he seems to forget is that I did pay for our wedding which was a significant chunk I wasn't expecting to have to cover 100%

I missed this earlier.

Honestly, you need to get out ASAP. Get to a solicitor and file for divorce. He'll have to pay child support for his child so you'll be getting that money at the very least.

Oliversmumsarmy · 04/11/2019 13:02

You are married. You are supposed to be a unit. What is your and what is his is supposed to be joined yet all I see is he has everything and you are paying to live with him like a lodger.

There is no relationship here.

Christ he doesn’t even see his own child as his responsibility.

Yes to going the freedom programme and yes to getting a divorce.

You are currently looking at this relationship as a happy ever after, grow old together type of relationship.

He is trying to prop up his house and squeeze you for every penny.

I don’t believe for one moment his ex drained him dry not do I believe he is paying over and above for his other children.

I think his ex got a fair settlement and his children get the minimum.

Saying he is leaving the house to his children is another way of saying,

I might screw you, I might be married to you but you are not worth thinking about

Raver84 · 04/11/2019 13:03

Op. You say he's not a bad man. He is. He's abusing you. We are all telling you the same information. He isn't a nice person he's a bellend. You need to stop pretending you have a happy marriage its doomed to failure because be is a selfish abuser. Think of your baby if not yourself do you want a child brought up in this situation. Living with a selfish dad who runs his wife into the ground and had absolutely no respect for her?You are being abused here. Please reach out to your family for help.

Nobody can be anymore clear with you. He made u buy a house so you would have some where to live when you seperate. Sending the email to say you won't claim for anything. None of this is normal op. I'm sorry. Please get some help to leave him.

Aashna · 04/11/2019 13:03

How is he proposing to feed the baby while you’re working OP?
He’s had 2 DC already. He must realise they can feed every other hour, for an hour. In the early weeks, you can feel like this is all you’re doing. What if you get mastitis? Or the baby doesn’t latch on properly?
He’s a bloody lunatic.

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2019 13:04

Also, because he said he would've been happy with a quick £50 registry office wedding and was reluctant to do something a bit more special

Crikey - I'm not a believe in extravagant weddings but if my high earning fiance told me a £50 registry job was good enough to make me feel obligated to pay for the lot I'd hope one of my friends would take me outside and shake me.

I am aware that pregnancy hormones may be at play here

Really? Pregnancy hormones made him deprive you of a share in the asset to which you contribute? Pregnancy hormones made him bully you out of seeing a financial advisor?

Honestly op he has you exactly where he wants you.

Please look at the Freedom Programme stuff then read this thread as if it were your best friend posting rather than you. What advice would you give them?

GettingABitDesperateNow · 04/11/2019 13:05

If it has got to the stage where you think he is planning ahead to get custody, then do you really think you can move on from this? Do you think he will be supportive of you breastfeeding?

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2019 13:06

Oh and he absolutely is a bad man. Take out the hormones/perceptiosn etc - the simple bald facts on your posts make him an abusive fucker, a nice middle class type who convinces you that everything is your fault.

sheshootssheimplores · 04/11/2019 13:07

OP you both really need relationship therapy I think. It’s obvious that he’s dragging a load of mistrust from his previous relationship and because of his actions you now don’t trust him either. This is going to intensify once baby is here.

TatianaLarina · 04/11/2019 13:07

As for his ex, I know she was very hands-on and did almost all the childcare for the first couple of years. He says he's keen to be different this time, which is a relief but I will have to see it to believe it.

He paid for the IVF because he clearly wants another baby. Perhaps to make up for the fact that his other kids don’t live with him. You happened to come along.

The reason you’re not on the deeds is because he sees the house as for his children - his blood family. You are not his family. You are a womb.

This time he wants to do childcare because as a lawyer he knows that the more he does the more likely he is to get primary custody. Or at least 50:50. His ex wife clearly got primary custody so he won’t make that mistake again.

My greatest fear is that he wants this child more than he wants me. That he has 'lost' his first two children and, after going through awful custody battles, knows that yo have a chance in any future custody case, he must demonstrate that he is a hands-on father. He may well cut his hours to this end but it would be his word against mine as to how much care he then actually provides while I am rushed back to work.

Completely spot on. You’re not anxious or mistrusting your gut is telling you this. Listen to it.

Motoko · 04/11/2019 13:08

FFS you're not listening to us!

It has nothing to do with pregnancy hormones!

What you are complaining about, is financial abuse. You are quite right to complain about it.

YOU ARE BEING ABUSED!

TatianaLarina · 04/11/2019 13:09

Despite everything, I do want us to be able to work on this. To trust and to find a way to communicate more positively and build a family but I am scared to go too far in trusting only to be burned if it ever comes to divorce.

Please don’t be naive OP and mess up your life. You can’t work on this. You’re the only one who wants to. He has no intention of working on anything - he has set it all up to suit him, there is no way he will change. This is what he wants.

Bluntness100 · 04/11/2019 13:10

Op, are you saying with all the financial mistrust between you two, and all the issues, you never once took the discussion on how th finances would work when you had a baby?

Daisy7654 · 04/11/2019 13:10

Be very careful OP and please get independent legal advice. You're in a very vulnerable position and he has financially manipulated you.
Could you go live with your mother/ parents /relative.
I really think it's that bad.
If your away then your the main care giver and he'd get a harder time getting full custody.
I don't want to frightened you but I once went on a first date with a barrister who had taken custody of his baby and was very manipulative. (V v v red flags) He was rich and got a nanny. Supposedly ex was crazy, he had her court order tested! He had ensured she had no rights or access to property. :'(

BrendasUmbrella · 04/11/2019 13:13

My greatest fear is that he wants this child more than he wants me. That he has 'lost' his first two children and, after going through awful custody battles, knows that yo have a chance in any future custody case, he must demonstrate that he is a hands-on father. He may well cut his hours to this end but it would be his word against mine as to how much care he then actually provides while I am rushed back to work.

Well first of all, don't let him rush you back to work. You are legally entitled to spend time recovering from the birth and bonding and establishing care with your baby. You don't even know yet if you will be able to express breastmilk, some women can't. When the Tory government cares more about your maternal rights than your husband, you must know you have problems.

And secondly if you're already thinking ahead to the custody battle you may as well start thinking tactically with that in mind...

Tell him what his child needs. Don't wait for him to offer because he won't. I can't remember if you mentioned it, but cot, carseat, pram - these things benefit your shared child not just you. Make sure he pays his share. Don't be embarrassed to discuss it. It's a baby, not a fart in a quiet room.

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