Are you really that bothered about shared toilets?

[Beaverdam]

We were discussing this in work the other day. I really dont care about sharing toilets with males but some of the other women are really annoyed about the idea.

Are you annoyed about this? If so, what isit that you dont like about it? Do you think that the men will perve?

We should wash out those mooncups, show no "modesty" or shame. Pinch your nose and loudly complain about men's smells and how dirty that are for peeing all over the seat and floor.

Utterly agree. If we can’t have liberation for women let’s have equality for men- let them feel unsafe and uncomfortable in public too

Make the men so squeamish and uncomfortable that they beg for single sex loos

No, we do not have to ‘just get used to it’. In fact, we must resist. It is vital to protect female-only spaces, for many fundamental reasons.

It doesn’t matter whether some women are fine with it. Many other women aren’t. Girls and women need safe, private places.

No we don’t have to get used to it! We are not a passive group who can be told to put up and shut up. FGS don’t fall into a meek mindset.

Beaverdam, we don't have to get used to it. We can make our views known and vote with our feet.

I loathe mixed sex toilets because of all the reasons stated above.

It's also the thin edge of the wedge.

Oh we just want to pee is the start.

Then we just want your changing areas, but we are allowed in the toilets.
And your hospital wards.

And your shelters and women's groups, yes we will have those too.
Scholarships, yep thanks so much
Awards, shortlists. Let's just take them all.

But really it's just about being able to pee.

I hate this its like we are children and dont really know what we want or want we think and mean. If we say no its not a maybe or i just need to get used to it.
Its very insulting.

Yes I'm bothered by it.
I was sexually assaulted and beaten in a single use toilet as a teen.
It had floor to ceiling walls so I couldn't see the bloke standing behind the door. Also because it was enclosed nobody could hear or see me struggling and shouting for help.
There's no way I'm sending my DDs into toilets with men in them.

Yes, it does. I hate using unisex public loos regardless of the hygiene aspect. Life experiences have made me really cautious/uncomfortable around men (unless I already know them really, really well) and as such, I'd rather try and hold it than go into a unisex loo if men are in there.

I don't personally care at all.

Completely enclosed cubicles with washbasins opening onto a corridor or similar are fine.

I work in a majority male environment. Grubby manual work. There are hundreds of men and probably less than 50 women. Statistically a few of those men may be sex offenders. I know for a fact there is at least one convicted rapist at work. My work take separate female facilities seriously luckily. The women's toilets are key access only and only female staff have a key. Not all workplaces are nice offices. Although some sex offenders do work in nice offices and not all sex offenders have been caught and convicted...

If I were told I had to use mixed sex toilets at work I would refuse and leave the building for the nearest single sex facility whenever I needed to. Even if that meant going home.

Yes definitely bothered by shared toilets - simply because they are always disgusting with pee everywhere and the toilet seat is always up. Men stand to do number ones, women can’t so it seems phenomenally unfair.

I would also feel uncomfortable putting make up or similar in front of men in a shared toilet facility but I could perhaps get used to this.

I am less bothered about unisex changing rooms though as long as they have lockable doors and proper walls. So I’m not that fussed about the M and S scheme given it seems to give everyone the choice.

It’s not that I think all men are predatory but I think SOME CAN be, based on prior experience.

hazeyjane

The men's toilets at your place of work had glory holes????

I can't stand mixed toilets and once I realise a place has them I won't go back.
Men's toilets stink and its also very awkward and frightening to share an intimate space with random men. I was in a bar a few weeks ago on a v rare night out, phoning my child in the loo, (didnt realise unisex) when two loud men came in and made threatening animal noises and laughed at me. Thats just the latest reason.
Also
Space away to regroup
Safe space
Applying makeup
Changing clothes / tights /heels
Caring for children
Caring for babies
Female only area in bars which can be
male dominated environment.
Area to regroup away from men
Area to chat talk things through without being talked over
Area to ring dependants
Area free of being chatted to or picked up by men
Area free of being offended / insulted by men.
Area to chill if any of the above occurs.
Being sick or drunk and having safe place to regroup. (Not me for 30 years! :) )
Period things.
Also older women hate it
Elderly men hate it too.
As do all women of faith I've asked.

Drunk men are a danger, either to women they find attractive, or in my case, more often as a woman they dont find attractive, its just bullying and intimidation. 'Who let the dogs out'.
Unisex loos are at best ridiculous and at least v embarrassing.

No it does not give women a choice! It completely takes away any choice at all!

All the loos at my work are unisex. That's ok in some ways as they are floor to ceiling doors and most are just single toilets. The one that isn't (two cubicles in a confined space sharing a washbasin) is my least favourite. I feel really weird coming face to face with a male colleague. Also, they leave the loo seat up.

And no one says all men are predatory! But the class of men has a significant contingent that are seriously, violently sexually predatory. They should under no circumstances have access to women’s spaces.

Men piss everywhere and don’t clean up after themselves.
I want complete privacy from men when using the toilet.
I want complete privacy from men when changing sanitary wear and washing blood off my hands.
I don’t want men’s’ comments, or eyes on me, or their proximity to me at all when using toilet facilities and cleaning up after.

There are men out there who get their thrills from hearing women using the toilet, fishing out used sanitary products from the bins, even from leaving the toilet in a mess and knowing a woman will be confronted with it. They exist, look it up - it should not be made easier for them to get their cheapies.

I’m very bothered for all the reasons posted on the FWR boards

However, the change is coming and we just have to get ued to it who fucking says so??

My main reason for not liking them is they are rank. However I was recently at an airport and saw the posters against forced marriage in the female toilets and that reinforced to me how female toilets should be a safe space and how useful they are for info sharing on subjects such as domestic abuse and forced marriage

And if the poor men’s feelings are hurt, perhaps they need to learn to put their house in order and call out those who behave vilely towards women.

Oh and what bothers me is more then hearing me use the sanitary bin or doing my business. I'm not remotely worried that any of my male colleagues would do anything untoward. Most of them are mortified when they come face to face with me.

If they're clean and there's enough cubicles then no problem. The unisex ones I've used before have tended to be messy with pee on the floor.

Stats on attacks on loos single sexy vs unisex - speak for themselves.

It's a horrid concept. We had to use the mens loo at work for a few days as the ladies had a plumbing issue and it was disgusting. Piss all over the floor and seat; skid marks all down the pan and the smell (like someone had eaten roadkill for breakfast). It was so bad that I didn't drink anything the second day so I didn't have to use it and ended up with a UTI as a thank you.