Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

FiL said our house smells of urine

111 replies

NataliaNutella · 03/11/2019 11:45

In the fifteen years I've known him I always thought FiL was a very quiet, introverted man due to lack of confidence. However in the last few years I think it might be a slight superiority which means he doesn't say much, either that or just terrible social skills! He has been very blunt with me recently to the point where I don't really want to be left alone with him.
He makes lots of comments about my weight (I'm a 14/16) such as 'is your dad slim or is he (puffs up cheeks, Michelin man impression arms) like you' also 'your mum is very slim, that surprised me.' Oh and 'maybe you and MiL could have a weight loss contest and can just hit the cakes out of your hands when we see you eating.' All of this is done with no expression, no humour. Deadpan expression.
I can take it. I have blunt friends, but there is warmth there. I can't think of anything nice that FiL has ever said to me. Sometimes he does strange gestures like buy me a Xmas decoration in Summer or brings over loads of kg bags of nuts but they're so odd and random that I can't really understand where they come from. Once he found a hat in a hedge whilst he was walking and washed it and gave it to me as he 'thought it would look nice with my hair.'
Yesterday was breaking point for me. I was having dd's birthday party in the afternoon, I had no help as dp was working and dm was busy. My son has been potty training for two weeks and we have carpet. We also only moved into our house last year and haven't saved up for a new bathroom yet. He came in whilst I was icing a very complicated pattern on a cake and said 'you should spray some air freshener round.' I said ok thanks DiL I will. He then came back about ten minutes later as I will almost balancing baking trays of snacks on my head and said 'the reason I said that about the air freshener is that this house smells of urine, it always does, especially in the bathroom, I think you really should do something about it, especially before guests come over. The other parents will judge you, you know, and the children won't have any friends at school.'
I was livid on the point of telling FiL that I've got enough on and I can't do anymore and if he would like to help then maybe you should go and clean the toilet yourself. It may well be true but I'd washed the carpets and I've tried I don't know how many things on the toilet but there is a way of saying things.
My parents would have pulled me aside and said it when I was calm and when I wasn't doing a million things. They would have offered to help, they would do things in a more subtle way and I would be grateful.

I wouldn't mind but it's not the same if you tell them a few home truths. My BiL is 26 and has never worked for longer than a few months. My Dm is a well connected employee of a higher education charity, she asked BiL how the job hunt was going when it was just the two of them. It got back to dp how judged BiL felt and how it was very out of order how my Dm had handled things.
Arghhhh! So frustrating

OP posts:
YouTheCat · 03/11/2019 11:48

Tell him it only smells of urine when he's in it.

SomeoneBurntTheToastAgain · 03/11/2019 11:52

Rude bastard. Why haven't you put a stop to his comments already?

Carabello · 03/11/2019 11:52

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Mollpop · 03/11/2019 11:54

If it was me, I'd just be honest and say "Why do you always have to be so offensive?"
If you don't confront him, he'll just carry on

zen1 · 03/11/2019 11:58

Sorry, but he’s a bullying arsehole. I would tell him he’s not welcome in your home, particularly when your DP isn’t about. What has DP said to him about his comments?

NataliaNutella · 03/11/2019 11:58

I think because I thought it was so out of character I thought maybe he didn't understand how it came out. He's not a swaggering, Jeremy Clarkson type, he's a very quiet, nervous man. However as the comments have got more frequent I thought 'where is this coming from?'
My family are so lovely to dp despite the fact that when we met he was a jobless, sofa surfing stoner and I've encouraged him to go for jobs, get a mortgage, go abroad for the first time and have grandchildren. My grandparents are quiet well off and they've give us a deposit for a house and paid for holidays. In return from his family I get a lot of grief for being a full time working mother and being ambitious. I get fat shamed and told that I should appreciate dp more (stop nagging he only wants a day to himself to play playstation, he works hard!)

OP posts:
Inforthelonghaul · 03/11/2019 12:01

Rude, I’d have told him to come back when he’d learned some manners. Next time do not bite your tongue, tell him exactly what you think.

Gardai · 03/11/2019 12:09

Don’t let him in the house and tell him it’s because he stinks of piss ?

Tistheseason17 · 03/11/2019 12:12

Tell him it only smells of urine when he's in it

Grin ^^ this!

pizzicato · 03/11/2019 12:13

Could he have early signs of dementia?

Smelborp · 03/11/2019 12:15

Jut tell him to fuck off. He doesn’t deserve any more respect than that.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 03/11/2019 12:16

OP please don;t get mad and frustrated...the way to deal with this is..FIL if you don;t like it you don;t have to be here.
You don;t have any reason on earth to have to put up with his shit. He is doing it for his own childish kicks and probably because he knows you are too polite to answer back so he tries to get away with it.Show him different.How dare he come into your home and feel he has the right to upset you? Simple answer is he has no right....Sort the joyless nasty sod out once and for all .If done right you will only have to do it the once!!

MidnightMystery · 03/11/2019 12:17

He's either got something wrong with him or he's a complete prick.

sniffingthewax · 03/11/2019 12:17

My SIL's house has a very overpowering smell of urine that hits you as soon as you enter. I've no idea why as she is very on top of cleaning, but I think it might be because she has boys and lino on the floor that must be absorbing pee. Anyway, I have often thought to tell her this as it really puts me off going there. I know she is very fussy so would take it really badly, but maybe in this instance your FIL is right? I would hate for people to come to my house and smell urine, they will definitely judge.

Ponoka7 · 03/11/2019 12:18

You need to start challenging him.

I'd ask MIL if he was well, just out of concern because he was 'so out of character rude'.

But don't take fat shaming.

Ponoka7 · 03/11/2019 12:21

@sniffingthewax, my DDs house was the same, it was a leak under the kitchen floor to do with the plumbing.

She went 'nose blind' and it only got sorted because other people mentioned it.

DishingOutDone · 03/11/2019 12:21

Bloody hell that's early on in the thread @pizzicato, I haven't even got my bingo card out yet.

He's a dick and always has been. And sounds like your DH enables it. Why don't you actually say something? Say if he's going to talk to you like shit in your own house he simply doesn't come over, end of.

Ponoka7 · 03/11/2019 12:22

Just to add it might be the same situation with the OPs toilet. It's a leaking issue.

Cryalot2 · 03/11/2019 12:22

He is a nasty bully , you don't need him in your life.
Tell your dh he must stand up for you and tell him he is not welcome until he learns manners.Flowers

elsaandanna · 03/11/2019 12:24

I'm not clear of you are saying your FILs character has recently changed?

I may be off the mark but it could be a very early sign of dementia. A family member here became increasingly out spoken and we didn't think a great deal about it at the time but now we can see it was the start of the dementia.

honeylulu · 03/11/2019 12:24

Tell him the whiff is coming from him and can he remember to wear clean trousers when he comes round next.

I feel for you. My PIL were like this especially my MIL. Looking back I think it did come from their discomfort that none of their adult children had done very well in life. My H was probably the most successful but I had done better than him education and career wise (despite less advantages) and they were very chippy about that. I didn't realise for ages why they were so off with me. When I was about to qualify as a solicitor my MIL sighed and said "why didn't you just do a legal secretary qualification?" and it all clicked into place. In their eyes I deserved to be taken down a peg or two. Sorry, I digress ...

I confess though I did laugh about him giving you the hedge-hat!!! WTF?

Betty777 · 03/11/2019 12:25

Sounds to me that if he's shy, he's possibly verging on Aspergers or similar and unable to socially interact normally. I'm not excusing his behaviour but could be worth looking into. Get your DH to broach it.

(I once worked for someone like this who told me bluntly that I had to take him aside to tell him if he offended me, because he wasn't good at picking up on social cues)

areyoubeingserviced · 03/11/2019 12:26

If it was just the urine episode, I would say that you were being unreasonable. After all, he could be telling the truth, albeit without tact)
However, commenting about your size and other things indicate that he is a prized asshole or there is something wrong with him ( onset of dementia?)
His behaviour is unacceptable and I would ask your dp to have a few words with his father or else you will be having a few choice words with his father.

Boysey45 · 03/11/2019 12:27

I'd tell him he wasn't to come round ever again and I'd tell your partner to tell him as well. I'd go as far to say if I clapped eyes on him again it would be over with him as well and that he wasn't come round when I wasn't in.
You don't have to put up with this OP, hes an absolute bully. All houses can have a whiff at certain times as well. I've had it with cat wee a couple of times. I'm telling you in my experience of unpleasant smells that the best thing is Dettol,the brown one on the floors and down the loo.

MitziK · 03/11/2019 12:29

It's going to have to be the 'could he be Autistic?' question.

They really sounds like the sort of comments that somebody with ASD would say - and the slightly weird attempts at kindness, such as thinking a hat he found would suit you, also sound likely. I got similar random gifts from my DB at intervals (all new in his case, but he'd see something, think I'd like it or it would suit me and they'd be handed to me). He also tended to think something, realise halfway through that the words might not be nice and then try to convey the meaning without actually saying them, not realising that the gesture could be as bad as the words. He also had a great talent for deadpan humour, which some people disliked, but if you knew him and the way he was, you got some real crackers - it was one of things his mates said about him at his funeral. That and he wouldn't let them go back to work from breaks even a second late, so would start telling them it was nearly time to go back with ten minutes left. He also nagged me about eating properly when I was a teenager - I lost a load of weight and he kept on pestering me to eat, offering to buy me food, give me money to buy me food, telling me that my legs were getting really thin and I needed to eat more to get better...then he told me that I'd put weight on, which was good because it meant I didn't need to eat any more.

Even the urine comments sound like he's concerned/worrying about the consequences for others if it's not sorted out.

FWIW, the cleaning things designed for pets are great for this. Normal carpet cleaning stuff just can't deal with it, but using those is far more effective.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.