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FiL said our house smells of urine

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NataliaNutella · 03/11/2019 11:45

In the fifteen years I've known him I always thought FiL was a very quiet, introverted man due to lack of confidence. However in the last few years I think it might be a slight superiority which means he doesn't say much, either that or just terrible social skills! He has been very blunt with me recently to the point where I don't really want to be left alone with him.
He makes lots of comments about my weight (I'm a 14/16) such as 'is your dad slim or is he (puffs up cheeks, Michelin man impression arms) like you' also 'your mum is very slim, that surprised me.' Oh and 'maybe you and MiL could have a weight loss contest and can just hit the cakes out of your hands when we see you eating.' All of this is done with no expression, no humour. Deadpan expression.
I can take it. I have blunt friends, but there is warmth there. I can't think of anything nice that FiL has ever said to me. Sometimes he does strange gestures like buy me a Xmas decoration in Summer or brings over loads of kg bags of nuts but they're so odd and random that I can't really understand where they come from. Once he found a hat in a hedge whilst he was walking and washed it and gave it to me as he 'thought it would look nice with my hair.'
Yesterday was breaking point for me. I was having dd's birthday party in the afternoon, I had no help as dp was working and dm was busy. My son has been potty training for two weeks and we have carpet. We also only moved into our house last year and haven't saved up for a new bathroom yet. He came in whilst I was icing a very complicated pattern on a cake and said 'you should spray some air freshener round.' I said ok thanks DiL I will. He then came back about ten minutes later as I will almost balancing baking trays of snacks on my head and said 'the reason I said that about the air freshener is that this house smells of urine, it always does, especially in the bathroom, I think you really should do something about it, especially before guests come over. The other parents will judge you, you know, and the children won't have any friends at school.'
I was livid on the point of telling FiL that I've got enough on and I can't do anymore and if he would like to help then maybe you should go and clean the toilet yourself. It may well be true but I'd washed the carpets and I've tried I don't know how many things on the toilet but there is a way of saying things.
My parents would have pulled me aside and said it when I was calm and when I wasn't doing a million things. They would have offered to help, they would do things in a more subtle way and I would be grateful.

I wouldn't mind but it's not the same if you tell them a few home truths. My BiL is 26 and has never worked for longer than a few months. My Dm is a well connected employee of a higher education charity, she asked BiL how the job hunt was going when it was just the two of them. It got back to dp how judged BiL felt and how it was very out of order how my Dm had handled things.
Arghhhh! So frustrating

OP posts:
ChilledBee · 04/11/2019 08:07

You cant keep the kids in a pissy house, OP.

InkyToesies · 04/11/2019 09:49

I'm not going down the (alleged) urine smell. I reckon that's been said to deliberately wound and unfortunately the OP is responding just as the low-life FIL wanted, and now doubting her own senses.

It seems to me that this twat isn't a quiet, shy man at all, he just presents that way and the OP assumes his quietness equals shyness. He is hugely resentful and seethingly angry at the OP. She and her family have -quite unwittingly - shown him up and exposed him for the person he is and he doesn't like it. He feels you've humiliated him and his aggression, albeit passive (because he's not up to any other sort) is to 'get back' at you / score points / undermine you. He's like the kid who's losing a squabble and his only available riposte left is "well you SMELL / you're FAT." It doesn't even matter that neither is true!

Until the OP came along he was considered the top dog amongst the torpid, underachieving sub-adults that are his family. And without comment or blame or an ounce of superiority, the OP has apparently effortlessly turned his son into a functioning adult and is doing a ton of adulty things without even breaking a sweat.

The FIL's rage towards OP is probably all-consuming...so he sees a hat in a hedge: Ha! Stick it on the OP's head and make her look a fool. He fantasises about physically stroking the OP so he comes up with a 'game' where he's hitting stuff out of her hands. He gives the OP a Christmas thing in summer and she looks bemused. Ha! She doesn't know what to say! Thinks she's so clever.

If he thinks he's hit home with comments about weight / smells / anything else, he'll continue in the same vein and will feed voraciously off the power he feels. He's a none-too-bright, sneaky and spiteful person. The superiority you wondered about is nothing of the sort. He did feel (relatively) superior amongst his family members, but then you came along and he feels threatened.

If I were you OP, I'd put him back in his box pretty damn quick. Shut him down - politely and dismissively. Every. Single. Time. Treat him like an annoying child and stick to the same phrases without missing a beat e.g. "Now you're just being silly!"; "How interesting!" for any tat. I'm sure you can think of loads. The main thing is to have a stock of one-size-fits-all phrases, be prepared for him and not to be caught off-guard.

Fucking weasel. (Though I like weasels.)

InkyToesies · 04/11/2019 10:01

Striking, not stroking!

HiJenny35 · 04/11/2019 10:07

I'm sorry but you clearly know about the smell because you've tried to deal with it. You can't have people round with a house smelling like urine. He's right, maybe he said it badly and yes you were busy but if it was me I'd sod the cakes being ready make sure the house doesn't smell like wee before guests turn up.
The stuff about your weight etc, yes confront him about this but the smell, sorry he's right.

shrutefarm · 04/11/2019 10:07

My god not everything is caused by dementia or autism. He could just be an asshole. Op's house might smell like piss but that's got nothing to do with calling her fat.

Op your dp doesn't sound great either tbh. Sounds like you could've done a lot better.

Zaphodsotherhead · 04/11/2019 10:13

People saying it can't be dementia because he's saving it for OP - how do we know? OP will really only hear the things he's saying about her (and also her MIL and her DM). Maybe he does it to everyone but she concentrates on what he says to her.

If the house smells of wee, open some windows. Potty training houses can often be a bit pongy, I usually find the smell of carpet cleaner that's been spread over the top is worse.

But I'd be more worried about the personal comments. You can do something about the smell, but your personal appearance isn't going to change overnight and he knows that.

Footiefan2019 · 04/11/2019 11:57

Under 50? ASD
Over 50? Dementia
Flaky useless friend? Mental Health Issues
Mother in Law? Just A Cunt
Mum at School Gates poster doesn’t like the look of? Also Just A Cunt

I definitely think there’s some weird double standards on here !

NaviSprite · 04/11/2019 13:41

Just on the note of trying to get rid of the smell (I agree your FIL sounds like a tactless dick) I found mixing one cup of bio washing powder in with three cups (standard drinking mug sized cups) of boiling water and using that (when cooled a bit of course) to scrub carpets/soft furnishings was the best way to get rid of the smell.

I use this method a lot because I have a lovely old DTwatCat who has a weak bladder and is prone to accidents before she reaches a litter tray and cat wee smells much worse that any other wee (IMO).

Just wanted to offer that in case it helps with the carpets 😊

Longdistance · 04/11/2019 13:48

‘Fil, I found this turd on the pavement outside my house, I’ve rolled it in glitter, I thought it’d look good on your mantle piece’.

BunnyColvin · 04/11/2019 13:52

Why is everyone piling in with excuses for this rude ignorant arsehole?

OP start standing up for yourself also also make it your DP's problem. This is his rude relative after all, so why should you have to put up with it?

Also, consider assertiveness training.

The urine smell isn't the issue. You can get a close friend to tell you honestly whether there's any truth in that.

Shut this down OP.

BlackAudi · 06/11/2019 00:33

@MitziK Randomly buying someone gifts isn't Autism or Aspergers it's sodding kindness HmmHmmHmm

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