AIBU to think Keir Starmer as Leader could win the December election?

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Could he win it? He is very popular and a different character to Corbyn. I think he would appeal to a lot of the electorate who are left leaning but unkeen on JC.

Yanbu

I agree.

YADNBU

I agree! Whether he wants the poison chalice, though, is another thing.

YANBU.

So why don't Momentum push him? Or is he too centrist?

I’ve been ranting exactly that at the telly for a year. Why why why haven’t the Labour Party shoved Corbyn into a cupboard and got a leader people could vote for?

I thought that until I heard him speak the other day. Very disappointing.

YANBU
The policies that put me off voting Labour are the tax ones, especially inheritance tax, and that they want to abolish private schools.
They would have to sort their crazy policies out as well as getting rid of Corbyn/ McDonell.
They need to be slightly left of centre, they have gone too far left, just as the Tories have gone too far right.

I spent a day in Parliament before TM left and heard him talk. He is quite quiet and his voice doesn't match his appearance. I think there are many people out there who cannot get a 'sense' of who he is (except those who know him from CPS) and if they did, if they saw the thinker and the principled man there, they would vote for him.

Yanbu. He's far too near the centre for the far left zealots that have infected Labour.

@Babysharkisanearworm I do know what you mean and thought the same but his delivery is one thing, the thoughts behind them are quite powerful.

@AnneLovesGilbert He has been an obvious one for me for a long time.

Trouble is, it was Starmer who put the kibosh on pursuing grooming gangs in case he was called racist. I doubt, as a result, he'd appeal in Leave-voting constituencies, as many have not forgotten how he allowed white, working class girls to be thrown under a bus much longer than they should have been. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-failed-grooming-victims-law-chief-keir-starmer-admits-9dwd9brflvm

Because he isn’t the leader! Because Labour are nutters and vote in a barmy leader who will bankrupt the country. Who have ideas that if they don’t work (and they won’t!) still have personal money and can say ‘well it was worth a try’

Wasn’t there a big walk out a few years ago against Corbyn? But he ignored it and stayed anyway.

I have been saying this for months and months. I just don't understand it.

YANBU.
I think Andy Burnham would stand a good chance too.
Corbyn has alienated so many moderates.

Agreed

I think Starmer, Watson, Cooper, Burnham, Khan... would all win by a landslide right now. Anybody vaguely credible and competent could beat BJ. Just imagine where the country would be if a different Milliband had won the leadership election. Brexit just wouldn’t be a thing.

@Hefzi - so could he have overturned the law/culture during that time to prosecute the offenders and put a halt to the crimes?

If so, then I agree your point about those communities and how betrayed they feel towards Labour

Labour party has been taken over by the far left - they have total control of it all and would never put a moderate in as leader now as they are convinced it's the mainstream media and the centrists Labour Mps who are the reason Corbyn lost the last election - when its really the fact people don't want him as PM and this isn't a naturally socialist country. If he doesn't win (very likely) and stands down then it will be another similar leader. Prepare for a right wing government for a long time is my advice.

I have no idea why labour party members cannot see how unelectable Jeremy Corbyn is. I joined the party so I could vote him out - the constituency re-selected him by a huge majority. They love him.

to me it's clear that he won't win - which is some feat against Boris Johnson.

Mind you, I'm not that keen on Keir Starmer either tbh.

Yes, I agree.
Corbyn needs to realise that HE is the reason so many labour voters are deserting. He should step down and let someone else take over.

See, even if you are a hard leftist isn't it tactical to think we put someone in who will be Labour rather than just hand the election over to BJ. It might not be your choice to put in a centrist candidate but isn't that preferable than a Tory PM for them?

Er. No.