New Tactical Voting Website by Gina Miller

[SouthLondonQueen]

Just trying to get the word out on how you can stop the Tories.

tactical.vote

@Lifecraft

Absolutely correct. It may well prove in the long term that the only way to recover the trading position we currently enjoy will be to rejoin.

I'm very relaxed about the prospect of joining Schengen. I'm not particularly in favour of joining the Euro, but it would be a price worth paying to rejoin.

That's a phrase that gets used a lot.

The economic impact of losing all our international trade deals is a "price worth paying" for leaving.

Accepting the loss of our veto, rebate and exemption from Schengen and the Euro would then be a price worth paying for rejoining.

How much better to remain and keep the rebate, keep the veto and keep our exemptions. Indeed, retain the best deal that any nation in the world has with the EU.

By all means; deliver Brexit and watch the breakup of the UK within a few years. Brexit is underpinned by false premises about sovereignty and immigration, resentment arising from generations of failure from every British government and wishful thinking about trade deals that won't come close to making up for what we lose from EU trade. The 2016 referendum excluded EU citizens settled in the UK (but included Commonwealth citizens) and is therefore hardly democratic. Hopefully the next Parliament will not produce a majority for any party and we can finally have a proper referendum

Ha, no ta OP. Happy conservative voter here

Who is this obnoxious thing who thinks she can interfere in the government of this country? What's her motive, it won't be philanthropic? Before the usual abuse is thrown around, I wanted to remain and still do but her interference for her own reasons are even more worrying than leaving.

I wish there was a tactical vote so I could stop hearing from Gina Miller.
^^^^ in spades.

Cornishclio SE Cornwall perchance?

I'm very relaxed about the prospect of joining Schengen. I'm not particularly in favour of joining the Euro, but it would be a price worth paying to rejoin.

Schengen enabled Bataclan and the Zaventem/Metro bombings in Brussels. I drove from Brussels to Dunkirk that day, and nowhere was anyone being stopped.

The Euro doesn't work - it's beggared Greece, and left other economies in difficulties. No, you don't have to change currency when you go to Austria from Belgium, but your euros don't have the same purchasing power. People in Belgium were horrified by how prices rose when the euro was introduced, and they haven't gone back down. It was cheaper to come back and do a shop at Sainsbury than pay euro prices at times, even factoring in the ferry and a night at a Premier Inn. In 13 years, I bought 97% of my new clothes in UK, or by mail order from UK; ditto shoes.

chengen enabled Bataclan and the Zaventem/Metro bombings in Brussels. I drove from Brussels to Dunkirk that day, and nowhere was anyone being stopped

We also had our own terrorist incidents in the UK from people who are born here.

Borders and checks are useful to stop people travelling easily between countries. No borders within the EU also has massive advantages in trade and movement.

What's more important - or do we find a balance somewhere?

Maybe we should put a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland to stop potential terrorists coming through?

No, you don't have to change currency when you go to Austria from Belgium, but your euros don't have the same purchasing power

That's the same for within the UK as well.

£10 in parts of the UK goes a lot further than in other parts of the UK. Outweighed by what people earn locally though.

Purchasing power varies in the UK and is all relative to earnings and other issues as well.

No thanks Gina

I don't need or want this woman's advice on voting.

I don't think joining the Euro would be a condition of being let back in. Countries that have joined recently (Croatia in 13 and Bulgaria and Romania in 07) don't have the euro - and if we did end up at the point where we had to actually go back in after leaving, I imagine tge government finances would have deteriorated to the point where they wouldn't let us near it. I mean it definitely has its problems the euro, I don't imagine they will want to do anything exciting with it until all the Greek debt is slowly written or paid off.

On the tactucal voting, I don't think anyone really expects to overturn massive majorities in either direction (although who the hell knows at this point!) but it's just to try and focus all the Remain (or Leave, if you use a Leave one) votes on the one candidate to try and maximise their chances. It's all up for grabs this time. The same thing's happening as happened in Scotland (and Ulster long before - the Economist called it Ulsterisation) where people start voting on one binary issue and the centre parties get a kicking while the extreme ones flourish. I never thought I'd see the day I'd be calling the Lib Dems extreme. But when the whole country moves and you stay where you were, you can find yourself at the edges

If Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM of a minority govt following the election, and then tries to force thru his policies he can't get thru parliament, by unlawful means, suspending parliament etc, then a lot of Tories who currently hate Gina Miller will suddenly be very supportive of her.

Regardless of whether you are pro or anti the govt she is holding to account, we should all be grateful that we actually have someone like like her to hold despotic leaders like Boris or whoever might come next, to account.

I don't need or want this woman's advice on voting.

Well don't take it then, it's not compulsory. You have the freedom to ignore Gina Miller (thanks to people like Gina Miller).

Who is this obnoxious thing who thinks she can interfere in the government of this country?

She doesn't interfere. She asks the courts to interfere if they decide what the govt is doing is illegal. The easiest way of never hearing from her again is to have a govt run by a law abiding citizens. Unfortunately, we don't have that, we have Johnson, JR-M and all the other lawbreakers.

It says I should vote Labour.

Why would I vote for something that will cost me at least £500 per year just in my council tax going up if Labour won the seat.

Not that I would be paying it if Labour won the election. We won’t be staying.

It says I should vote Labour. Why would I vote for something that will cost me at least £500 per year just in my council tax going up if Labour won the seat.

The website is for people who want to keep the Tory candidate out, at all costs. You clearly don't want to do that, which is absolutely your choice. I'm just not sure why you bothered with the website at all?

Croatia are on the verge of adopting the euro. It will be the ruination of them.

Very open to the idea of tactical voting unless it means voting Labour. I would be open to voting for any other party but I won’t do something that - even indirectly - endorses Jeremy Corbyn.

Goodness I wish Gina Miller would go away.

Voting Tory here.

Goodness I wish Gina Miller would go away. Voting Tory here.

If we had a Tory govt that weren't always trying to break the law, then she would!

if the 48% remainers all voted Liberal we would remain in the EU....and then we could get back on an even keel with domestic policies.....

Brilliant woman!! Thank god for Gina Miller Last time in this Borough, the Conservatives pipped Lib Dems to the post by less than 50 votes (Richmond Park). This time the Lib Dem’s will wipe the floor with them! Can’t happen soon enough. And I say this as an ex Tory voter (pre the ridiculous Brexit debacle that has ruined this country). Revoke A50 and let’s get in with it! The Conservatives have totally lost their core voters in Remain constituencies like this. I would even vote Labour if I had to and risk the tax implications. Something has to change.

I just want to welcome Gina Miller to the website aka Lifecraft.

I’m really surprised to see this suggests I vote Labour.

My seat had switched between tory and Lib Dem for years and currently has a crazy useless no-deal Boris lover in situ.

In 2017 Labour came second, squeaking just ahead of LDs but that was because the LDs had a totally useless candidate. This has now changed and we have an excellent one.

I just can’t see this seat turning red, ever. But now I don’t know which way to vote, having assumed LD was the safest way to vote to get the Tory out.

An arrogant, do as I say, woman whatever side of the fence one is on.