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Jeremy Corbyn

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salcombebabe · 30/10/2019 08:26

I see so many posters saying they won’t vote for Labour as they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn - why? If the Labour policies are good then why not vote for those rather than the leader?

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Dapplegrey · 30/10/2019 17:55

if he gets into power all that will happen is the rich will leave with all their money, so Corbyn will have to tax the already over-taxed, over-worked middle income workers even more

I agree with this. If Corbyn gets in he’ll probably enforce currency controls but it will be too late: if the polls indicate that Labour will win the next election trillions will leave the country.

Amanduh · 30/10/2019 17:56

Their policies aren’t good, his cabinet aren’t good, and at the end of the day HE would be PM, his leadership is an absute shambles, he couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery, and his idea of a socialist new dawn will run us in to the ground.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2019 17:56

imjustanerd who can we vote for ? It is a total shambles.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/10/2019 17:58

JC supporters really aren’t interested in listening to arguments about why voters don’t want to vote for Labour under his leadership. All they want to do is virtue signal and tell anyone with differing opinions how shameful, wrong, stupid and gullible they are

So I've noticed Sad

Worst of all, though, is that failing to listen, flinging insults and insisting everything's a smear is preventing the sort of change which could make Labour electable ... and that disadvantages everyone

Ringdonna · 30/10/2019 17:59

The Tories are not trying to privatise the NHS ffs! There are some thick twats on here Hmm

imjustanerd · 30/10/2019 17:59

Fuck knows Vix.

Where's The Raving Loony Party when ya need em? Oh yeah I forgot they're already in government.

StinkGhoul · 30/10/2019 18:01

I agree with this. If Corbyn gets in he’ll probably enforce currency controls but it will be too late: if the polls indicate that Labour will win the next election trillions will leave the country.

Usual scaremongering bullshit. And those people are paying next to no tax while draining the country thanks to infrastructure, tax credits for their employees, etc etc.

Gwiwer · 30/10/2019 18:02

if he gets into power all that will happen is the rich will leave with all their money
I feel this line of attack would be more effective if the alternative wasn't Boris' Brexit. That'll cause more significant and long-lasting economic damage than 5 years of Corbyn as PM.

StinkGhoul · 30/10/2019 18:02

JC supporters really aren’t interested in listening to arguments about why voters don’t want to vote for Labour under his leadership.

I’m up for listening to arguments, just not hyperbole and outright lies.

dadshere · 30/10/2019 18:06

Ringdonna
"The Tories are not trying to privatise the NHS ffs! There are some thick twats on here "

Tell me about it, they are so thick that they have not realised that the tories are ALREADY selling off huge chunks of the NHS.

Jeremy Corbyn
KennDodd · 30/10/2019 18:12

if he gets into power all that will happen is the rich will leave with all their money

Possibly, rich individuals will leave the country to avoid paying tax.

Alternatively, if we have Boris and his Brexit, companies, employing tens of thousands, will leave the country.

CendrillonSings · 30/10/2019 18:13

dadshere

So based on your own graph, the Tories have increased private provision from 5% to a gigantic ......... 7.5%! Grin

Are you kidding? It'll take a hundred years of Tory Government to privatize the NHS at that rate!

SweetSummerchild · 30/10/2019 18:14

Has been accused of sexual assault multiple times, is a self-admitted user of cocaine, a proven liar, cheat and all-round tory glory boy.

Yes, and he was at the forefront of the Leave campaign which (albeit marginally) won the 2016 referendum. I’m not interested in discussing the ‘lies’ told by either side - he (and his allies) convinced more voters than the Remain team.

David Cameron was no stranger to scandals. There was that stuff with the pigs head and the drugs and whatever. He still managed to get a majority in 2015.

Labour under JC just aren’t convincing voters because their policies don’t appeal. It’s that simple. The vast majority of voters simply aren’t poor enough or aren’t rich enough to risk the kind of economic upheaval that they fear the policies would lead to. The tories don’t have to appeal to Foodbank users - 90% of them just won’t vote. For anyone. They simply have to invoke their own particular brand of Project Fear and they’ll end up winning.

Youngatheart00 · 30/10/2019 18:15

Also the NHS selectively using specialist independent providers is NOT a bad thing.

We all expect good care, right?

Kaddm · 30/10/2019 18:15

Corbyn is too far left.
Johnson is too far right.
Both, in my opinion, are maniacs and represent the absolute worst of their parties. Extremists.
Both caused brexit. BJ made a big show of which side he would come down on and then campaigned for Brexit, against his own prime minister. JC refused to support David Cameron when he suggested to the electorate that they should vote to stay. He refused to encourage all Labour supports to vote remain. So both are responsible for the awful mess we are in.

I am not going to vote. Nobody deserves my vote.

ForalltheSaints · 30/10/2019 18:20

There are many Labour policies I agree with, especially their support for the NHS.

However, I will not vote for them because under Jeremy Corbyn they have not acted against anti-semitic comments by some of their members. I would be betraying part of my heritage if I did.

AlphaBravoCharlieDelta · 30/10/2019 18:30

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DoctorTwo · 30/10/2019 18:36

Boris removed the whip from 21 MPs not his cabinet.

You're right @Usernumbers1234, but he made it a condition of being part of his cabinet supporting his shit 'deal' which an independent economic thinktank will cost the country £70Bn

Amongst those he removed the whip from are:-
The former chancellor of the exchequer.
The Father of the House.
The former attorney general.
Winston Churchill's grandson.

StinkGhoul · 30/10/2019 18:38

The Tories are not trying to privatise the NHS ffs! There are some thick twats on here

So BJ is having these secret talks for a laugh is he?
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-us-trade-deal-trump-boris-johnson-healthcare-drug-prices-liz-truss-a9175261.html
I wouldn’t be calling others thick if I were you.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2019 18:41

That these two are our choices suggests a certain depletion in the pool of available PMs...
JC is not clever enough to be a PM. He should be running some extreme lefty group in a remote town, where they eat terrible biscuits (only one each) and rant away at each other.

And Boris...maybe a car salesman ? With better biscuits, and booze.

Jeremy strikes me as the sort of man, when faced with a box of family favourites, would take the shortcake and give a Mona Lisa martyred smile to anyone choosing the decadent jam and cream sandwich or the frivolous pink wafer.

CalamityJune · 30/10/2019 18:44

I don't like JC but the Lib Dems are a wasted vote in my area and have zero presence. They will not even put a leaflet through my door. I would like to vote for them based on Remain but I feel a vote for them is a favour to the Tories.

I will most likely vote Labour because of the second referendum pledge.

CalamityJune · 30/10/2019 18:47

@SirVixofVixHall I completely agree and am pretty uninspired. I'm not even sure who has got their eye on leadership at the moment.

I loathe Farage but the man is extremely effective at getting a message out and appealing to those turned off from politics. We need some people with that sort of skill but with centrist views.

CoolCarrie · 30/10/2019 18:54

I am glad I can’t vote, as I don’t live in UK at the moment, I wouldn’t know who to vote for. I’ve always voted Labour, but they have gone too far left now, the Torys have gone too far right, the greens are not great, neither are the liberals imho. If Keir Starmer should be labour leader, and get rid of Abbott and many of Jeremy’s “ comrades” JC reminds me of my English teacher at secondary school; all Che, CND and comrade!

CalamityJune · 30/10/2019 18:57

Kier Starmer is raising his head a bit lately. Would like to see him have more prominence.

CoolCarrie · 30/10/2019 18:57

If Keir Starmer was labour leader then they would have a hell of a lot more credibility that should read.