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Jeremy Corbyn

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salcombebabe · 30/10/2019 08:26

I see so many posters saying they won’t vote for Labour as they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn - why? If the Labour policies are good then why not vote for those rather than the leader?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/10/2019 16:29

Brilliant campaign slogan: "Vote for our clapped-out loser leader, but don't worry, we'll get rid of him soon!" Grin

"He'll be gone soon" is what the canvassers were saying round here last time ... and whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation it comes to something when that's the best they've got to say about their leader Hmm

StinkGhoul · 30/10/2019 16:36

Brilliant campaign slogan: "Vote for our clapped-out loser leader, but don't worry, we'll get rid of him soon!"

What, compared to “vote for our criminal leader but don’t worry, he’ll be in jail soon”?

All my life I’ve heard people saying they’re sick of lying slick politicians but clearly that was nonsense. You’d rather have Boris Johnson, a manipulative, law-breaking tosspot who only cares about his own interests, than a politician who’s been consistently re-elected for decades for good reason.

Those are our options. That’s the reality of it. Lib Dems or Green won’t win.

CendrillonSings · 30/10/2019 16:51

I'd certainly have Boris Johnson over a socialist clown any day of the week, thank you.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2019 16:53

I can’t stand him and bloody Bromentum .
I have absolutely no idea how I will vote.

StinkGhoul · 30/10/2019 16:53

I'd certainly have Boris Johnson over a socialist clown any day of the week, thank you.

Gobsmacking. Truly.

CendrillonSings · 30/10/2019 16:56

I guess you must find opinion polls and election results pretty gobsmacking too then?

DoctorTwo · 30/10/2019 16:56

And has no problem sacking his ministers who don't agree with him

Did he sack 21 all at the same time like our racist misogynistic Prime Minister?

TheToldYouSoDance · 30/10/2019 16:59

While I think Corbyn is a good person, I’m not a massive fan of his leadership; he’s made the mistake of putting himself before the party. That said, I’m labour through and through so will vote for labour in the GE and hope whatever the outcome, he’ll step down soon after. I’d like to see Kier Starmer as our next leader.

SweetSummerchild · 30/10/2019 17:03

These threads ALWAYS end (and start) the same way.

“I vote Labour because I care”
“Nobody with a shred of humanity could ever vote Tory”
“I’m rich but I vote Labour because I have a heart”
“I’m sure there must be some nice Tories, but I’ve never met one”

They always start with “I’m just interested to hear why people don’t like Jc/vote Tory/like BJ. I’m not being goody, I’m genuinely interested.”

Bollocks to that. JC supporters really aren’t interested in listening to arguments about why voters don’t want to vote for Labour under his leadership. All they want to do is virtue signal and tell anyone with differing opinions how shameful, wrong, stupid and gullible they are.

Sod that. I think I’ve actually now decided who I’m voting for.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 30/10/2019 17:10

Bollocks to that. JC supporters really aren’t interested in listening to arguments about why voters don’t want to vote for Labour under his leadership. All they want to do is virtue signal and tell anyone with differing opinions how shameful, wrong, stupid and gullible they are.

Totally agree

Notonthestairs · 30/10/2019 17:18

I don't understand why anyone would write off and entire political party based on one man. I don't write off the Tory party based on Johnson - I've written them off because I don't believe that they will secure an FTA in a years time and won't get an extension to get one finished. I believe we will crash out under Tory government and that will lead to further austerity.

Labour won't be getting my vote (no point here) but it's got feck all to do with Corbyn.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2019 17:19

I don’t think JC is a “good man” , I think he is an aged adolescent with a massive ego.
I can’t begin on Boris.
I feel despairing.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2019 17:23

And there is the anti-semitism, the misogyny, the bullying of MPs who don’t adore him, like Jess Phillips.
I have never felt so disenchanted with the whole lot of them. What with the greens and Amy Challenor, and the “non men” thing. The Lib Dems also spouting the ardent “trans males are actual women”.
I might vote for Plaid. I want to vote Green, but Amy Challenor has put paid to that.

Usernumbers1234 · 30/10/2019 17:25

@DoctorTwo

Do you know the difference between a minister and a member? Evidently not.

Boris removed the whip from 21 MPs not his cabinet.

And actually JC removed almost shadow cabinet members when he took over leadership.

StinkGhoul · 30/10/2019 17:26

I guess you must find opinion polls and election results pretty gobsmacking too then?

You mean like the last election where labour made unprecedented gains in polls once the media had to report fairly, or labour having the biggest GE gain in decades?

No, not really. It would have taken a miracle for them to completely comeback from the ridiculous smear job that had gone before.

Do you honestly look at what’s going on now and think “yeah, I trust this government with another five years”? That’s what’s gobsmacking.

Gwiwer · 30/10/2019 17:29

I'd like to vote Lib Dem.
The make-up of my consistency likely means I'll vote Labour.
I wish Corbyn would go.
Tories will win.

LellyMcKelly · 30/10/2019 17:35

Labour has moved too far to the left for me. Simultaneously, the Tories have moved too far to the right. For the first time I’m voting Lib Dems

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SpaghettiSharon · 30/10/2019 17:38

@Usernumbers1234 do you seriously believe he isn’t already privatising the NHS? I have family and friends who work in the NHS - is happening now, right under your nose.

Write it off as bullshit and Facebook politics if you want to but the Tories know now that turkeys will vote for Christmas so they can do pretty much what they like now.

Velveteenfruitbowl · 30/10/2019 17:41

Wellunless they do a uturn for the election their policies will also be crap. Tat aside a party with an ineffectual leader tends to result in an ineffectual Parliament which, as we have all learned, is a pain.

Velveteenfruitbowl · 30/10/2019 17:44

@SirVixofVixHall you forgot the open admiration of terrorists and dictators.

imjustanerd · 30/10/2019 17:52

I can't vote for Corbyn, I've always voted labour but after his absolute lack of leadership over brexit, the whole anti-Semitic debacle which he did nothing to stamp out and labours stance on self Id I'm afraid I'm out.

I've no idea who I can vote for, I'd usually say Lib Dem's or the Greens but they are quite happy to stitch women up too.

One things for sure I won't be voting bloody Tory, bunch of chancers who've brought public services in this country to its knees.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2019 17:54

I am genuinely baffled as to why people love him. I have friends who seem to adore him. I have other friends more closely involved in politics who feel quite the opposite.
I have a gut feeling of revulsion when I hear him speak, he reminds me of the men who would try to bully me into buying the Socialist Worker when I was a student, and who would shout misogynistic abuse at me when I politely declined.

dadshere · 30/10/2019 17:54

JC is terrible. He wants to make sure that children have a decent education, access to world class healthcare, free at point of use and that billionnaires and multi-billion pound companies pay their taxes. Lets not get started on his private life, I mean the Barsteward has only gone and won a bunch of awards;
n 2013, Corbyn was awarded the Gandhi International Peace Award for his "consistent efforts over a 30-year parliamentary career to uphold the Gandhian values of social justice and non‐violence"
In 2017 he was one of three recipients awarded the Seán MacBride Peace Prize "for his sustained and powerful political work for disarmament and peace".

Much better to be a man of principles like johnson, who sleeps with anyone with an xx, wedding vows be damned, ignores his own children, awarded contracts for a bridge nobody wanted to his chums, costing taxpayers £43 MILLION for a project that never even got spades in the ground! (Still his mates got paid).
Was happy to pass out the address of a journalist to facilitate an assault; blamed 'drunken' Liverpudlians for the Hillsborough tragedy and then went on to claim that they are 'hooked on grief'. Has been accused of sexual assault multiple times, is a self-admitted user of cocaine, a proven liar, cheat and all-round tory glory boy.

I mean, put like that the choice isn't hard is it?