Jeremy Corbyn

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I see so many posters saying they won’t vote for Labour as they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn - why? If the Labour policies are good then why not vote for those rather than the leader?

Momentum are in charge, and it will be Momentum running the country. Everything that moves will be nationalised. Announced so far BT (!) Post office, railways, private schools and many more utility companies. WHY?? We don't need to nationalise any of this, and it is costing billions and billions, that could surely be spent far better elsewhere!

Massive tax rises will have to be implemented at every level to even pay for the bare basics of such a big nationalisation programme, and we will still have record levels of debt.

How can anyone vote for this? I am not comfortable with any of it.

I am refusing to vote for labour next month, and will vote for the liberal dems.

Or maybe I just won't vote, because if I vote for Lib dems we could STILL end up with all of this via the back door!!!!!

I'm sure everyone will have seen Corbyn's tweet of support for Evo Morales in Bolivia this week. Shocking stuff. If anyone thinks he has any regard for the rule of law, I would hope that this might set them straight.

Now it's free broadband! Excellent. I hope it's as great as the NHS.

Vote for Boris if you want to pay for healthcare

Well nobody else is likely to get in bar Boris or Corbyn, and I'm not voting for Boris.

I am refusing to vote for labour next month

You will not be alone: Joanna Lumley, Frederick Forsyth, Fay Weldon, William Boyd, Antony Beevor, Sathnam Sanghera, Janina Ramirez, Trevor Phillips, Suzannah Lipscomb, Tom Holland, Peter Frankopan, Ghanem Nuseibeh, Dan Snow, Fiyaz Mughal, Tony Parsons, Dan Jones, Maajid Nawaz, Oz Katerji, Nick Hewer, Ed Husain and Terry Jervis have all declared that they will not be voting Labour either. They urge others to join them in this.

They cite anti-semitism in Labour as their reason. They mention, in terms, Corbyn’s comradeship with anti-semites.

Now it's free broadband! Excellent.

It just keeps on getting worse doesn’t it?

Now it's free broadband! Excellent

From the Guardian:

Openreach – the broadband network which is a distinct company within the BT group – would be nationalised under the plan. It is worth about £12bn-£15bn but the party said parliament would decide the rate of compensation. Labour has said it would issue government bonds to shareholders for all nationalisations

What was that about some saying shareholders would expect to be compensated ...?

I don’t think Labour want to win this election, they seem to be doing everything possible to put people of voting for them

you wonder whether the top Labour team is locked in a war room with the sole mission of figuring out if there is a sector of the electorate they've missed out from blatant attempts at bribery and announcing a new policy if they uncover one.

I love labour values, I'm not voting for them and I'm hoping for a Lib Dem breakthrough - Jo Swinson knows her electorate, awful lot of people who won't stomach momentum/Corbyn switched to her.

My Dad and I (both lifelong labour voters) were just saying the same thing Gin, that Corbyn and McDonnell are scared of the prospect of actually winning so keep coming up with more and more ludicrous policies hoping to put people off.

hmmm a shareholder in a private company compensated with a govt bond in an entity that is now not for profit. Cripes.

......awaits cries of “but labour aren’t FAR LEFT, they are CENTRE LEFT” from the usual suspects.

hmmm a shareholder in a private company compensated with a govt bond in an entity that is now not for profit. Cripes

Exactly - and since the implications around state theft seizure referred to all nationalisations, it's a useful insight into McDonnell's general views for anyone who remains unconvinced

That's also why I used a Guardian link; I'm well aware it's the Mail in reverse, but also realise that most other sources would be instantly damned as "right wing media smears"

He really is wanting to copy Venezuela.

The man is certifiable!

He really is wanting to copy Venezuela.

That’s what the Brexit Party are saying about the Tories. It’s a completely meaningless insult now.

That’s what the Brexit Party are saying about the Tories. It’s a completely meaningless insult now.

With Labour dumping tens of billions worth of new nationalisations on the table every day? Looks like the facts are against you, as usual.

I watched the Brexit Party say it on Question Time last night. The Telegraph quotes Farage saying it today. Are you calling me a liar @CendrillonSings?

I don’t care what the Brexit Party says, since they’re irrelevant to the election. I do care about the Labour Party pledging tens of billions worth of new nationalisations on a daily basis, because that’s the road to Venezuela if they win the election.

Venezuela is a total irrelevance is the point I’m making which you’ve spectacularly missed. It must be coming up to shift change time at Tory HQ.

Venezuela is a total irrelevance is the point I’m making which you’ve spectacularly missed.

I think you’ve missed the point that the far-left antisemitic party you support is driving us straight to Venezuela if they win.

It must be coming up to shift change time at Tory HQ.

Ah, Alsohuman, whatever Labour HQ is paying you to defend their antisemitism, it’s too much!

If JC gets the keys to No. 10, so be it.

They will then have to figure out where the money will come from to pay for all these promises.

The “rich” will vote with their money and leave you the U.K.

That makes the people who are not rich, relatively “rich”, so they will be targeted to make up the difference in the financial shortfall.

Then listen to the howls of protest from the “new” rich

I have cancelled my broadband wef day after the election as it will be “free” 😎😎👍👍

Meanwhile, in the real world........... 😳

According to today's FT McDonnell had said he had no other planned utiltiies to take over after his last little lot but now he produced the broadband idea.

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BT’s shares fell nearly 4 per cent in early trading on Friday but then recovered to trade slightly higher at 195.5p.

BT was taken by surprise by the Labour announcement, having been reassured by Mr McDonnell in the summer that BT was “not on the list” for nationalisation.

Mr McDonnell was asked on Friday morning whether he had been “fibbing” when he said in July that there would not be any more Labour nationalisations beyond those already set out.

“They were talking about whether I was going to nationalise all of BT, and that’s not what we’re doing,” he told the BBC’s Today programme.

He hinted that the state could also take control of smaller broadband providers such as Virgin Media and Sky Broadband which could be damaged by the Openreach takeover."

Meanwhile, in the real world...........

In the real world oddschecker is putting the odds of a Labour majority at 30/1. The best Jezza and McDonut can hope for is to head a ‘coalition of the virtuous’ which will bicker about Indyref and remainref for another 12 months before falling out and calling another GE. The damage they can do via nationalisation during that time is very limited - particularly while we’re still in the EU.

This encouraging thought is the only thing allowing me to sleep at night.

@Puzzledandpissedoff I've stopped keeping up with labour policies in detail since I decided last election I wouldn't vote for them due to competence issues plus McCluskey, it's incredible they can still shock me! It's clear McDonnell has no understanding of, or respect for markets.