Jeremy Corbyn

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I see so many posters saying they won’t vote for Labour as they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn - why? If the Labour policies are good then why not vote for those rather than the leader?

6/1 now from 11/2 earlier in the week.

I’d like to think that is good news but the bookies got it badly wrong with Brexit, one of Theresa May’s elections and Trump so I don’t have much faith in them any longer.

6/1 now from 11/2 earlier in the week.

They are offering the same odds on the tories winning 400+ seats.

The bookies weren't that far out on the last GE and Brexit, @Dapplegrey

That's why I mention the betting odds rather than opinion polls.

Presumably because they stand to lose or make a fortune, rather than just losing face, the bookies are more diligent than the pollsters.

www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics

The odds for a labour majority are at 16/1 which is very telling.

I would be surprised if we don't wake up on Friday 13th with either an outright Con majority or only a couple short.

I can't help thinking the result will reflect the splintering of British society and resolve nothing - SNP gains in Scotland, Lib Dem gains, Tories and Labour both doing slightly worse is my prediction, no overall majority.

Downtown - that’s interesting, I hadn’t realised that about the bookies at the last GE and Brexit.
I don’t think I’m tempted to have a bet though.

The angst is about the fact that this is not a scheme for employee share ownership - it is about forced government ownership

Well spotted, SweetSummerchild. As so often with these things "giving 10% to the employees" sounds good and makes a nice headline, but the devil's in the detail which they hope many won't delve into too deeply

Yes, it is a maximum of £500 per employee, not giving the employees a shaer of 10% of the com,pany's shares or aything like that.
As for the odds it is all still to play for but I certainly hope for a clear Tory win.

As so often with these things "giving 10% to the employees" sounds good and makes a nice headline, but the devil's in the detail which they hope many won't delve into too deeply...

All a bit... 'Venezuelan', isn't it.

All a bit... 'Venezuelan', isn't it

The hard ultra left , closer to power than ever before.
What have we come to when the Jewish community take out a full page ad, for everyone to stop them voting for Jeremy corbyn?

Why is it that all rumours about dodgy Kremlin slush funding are attached to Brexit and Tories rather than to dangerous Stalinist pinko commie-loving Jeremy? Very odd.

It's probably because Corbyn is a useless waste of time and money. Too shit to bribe is hardly a winning slogan.

Sounds like a reasonable argument bellini

Suspect it's because Russia want to see a weakening of the EU and think Brexit might do it. I think they're wrong and we were holding them back with our constant moaning. They will be more powerful without us but there you go.

The Guardian has just put up an item on this, half a million this year to the Tories from three Russians. I expect they're the right kind of dodgy Commie though and their money is absolutely pristine. Like its recipients. No laundromats round here in our lovely clean country.

"Labour donations have fallen sharply as major private donors deserted the party in a year when it was split with how to deal with Brexit and anti-Semitism.

Money given to Labour from unions also fell to a 20 year low last year as the party's biggest supporters appeared to rein in support after the 2017 election campaign.

The figures showed that in 2018, trade union donations to Labour dropped to £6.2million –the lowest ever level since the reporting began in 2001.

Overall the Conservatives took in donations totalling more than £21 million, compared with less than £7 million for Labour and £2.8 m"..lib dems.

Quick update on the odds quoted across bookmakers.

Con 1/14
Lab 12/1

'Con majority' is now neck and neck with 'no overall majority', at 11/18.

So bookies are saying that the most likely outcome is a very clear Tory win and looking more likely that it will be an overall majority.

This is quite a significant change over the past week or so.

That will certanliy mean they can get things done. The very anti Tory Financial Times is hoping for a hung parliament because I suspect a lto of their journalists want a second referendum but they don't want Labour's confiscation of companies etc policies. I don't agree. We are better off with a good majority.

We are better off with a good majority.

Of course you are, my money’s on you not getting one.

Because he sets alarms ringing at a gut reaction level. The sort of feeling if you came across in the street you would cross the road to avoid. Don’t know why but it’s there.

He also reminds me of a petulant greasy haired 6th former with no friends sitting in the corner of the common room spouting on about conspiracy theories and how Marx saved the world

He also reminds me of a petulant greasy haired 6th former with no friends sitting in the corner of the common room spouting on about conspiracy theories and how Marx saved the world

Got it in one - since then his body has aged fifty years whilst his thinking hasn’t evolved by a single day.

Because he sets alarms ringing at a gut reaction level.

That pretty much sums it up. There are a huge number of tory policies that I disagree with. There are a huge number of labour policies that I disagree with. However, if it came down to a straight choice between Boris and Jeremy as to who I’d rather have in number 10, it has to be Boris. I’m not kidding myself that there is going to be anyone other than one of those two.

JC fans can scream and shout at me all they like and call me heartless, stupid, gullible and all those other predictable insults but it’s not going to change my mind. I am not alone either. After the last two years of disastrous minority government the Labour Party should be way ahead in the opinion polls and they are significantly behind.

I just wish Labour members hadn’t voted him back in after he lost the confidence vote of the MPs back in 2016.

What have we come to when the Jewish community take out a full page ad, for everyone to stop them voting for Jeremy corbyn

It's definitely not the entire Jewish community not by a long shot. The more right wing elements dislike Corbyn's stance on the Palestinian issue.

The more right wing elements dislike Corbyn's stance on the Palestinian issue.

Yes, that'll be it.

Nothing to do with the antisemitism. Nope. Definitely not that.