Jeremy Corbyn

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I see so many posters saying they won’t vote for Labour as they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn - why? If the Labour policies are good then why not vote for those rather than the leader?

"He is genuine"

Yes - I agree with you. I've been involved in political and philosophical circles for a long time and met many very genuine people who gave huge amounts of time and effort through their compassion for others. This was frequently not a virtue.

People I met from both the far right and left were entirely genuine in their beliefs in 'chemtrails', the evils of chemicals in the water supply, that all the worlds evils come down to Israel and the 'Rothschilds bankers'. Wouldn't vote for any of them.

Do a twitter search for 'zionist chemtrails' to get an overview of the 'genuine' people out there.

A much older and bigger Jewish organisation does. The Jewish Labour Movement (formerly Poale Zion) has severed its ties to Corbyn’s Labour Party and refuse to campaign for him in the forthcoming election.

The so-called Jewish Labour Movement is a racist, pro-apartheid organisation. It's a disgrace it's allowed to be affiliated to the Labour Party in the first place, and if I were Labour leader I’d be deeply concerned if they wanted to campaign for me.

The so-called Jewish Labour Movement is a racist, pro-apartheid organisation. It's a disgrace it's allowed to be affiliated to the Labour Party in the first place, and if I were Labour leader I’d be deeply concerned if they wanted to campaign for me.

Current state of labour right here...

As an aside Labour had Stormfront backing them in the previous elections, something to maybe consider

As an aside Labour had Stormfront backing them in the previous elections, something to maybe consider

Plus The Daily Stormer and Alt Right magazine (Richard Spencer). It would appear than Corbyn has some work to do convincing the anti-semites that he is not one of them.

I just wish Corbyn had been strongly anti-Brexit. His evasive wishy-washyness has permeated the party and made them less than useless IMO. They talk so much drivelly crap.

I do like my MP though, and I live in a labour stronghold so I'll probably have to vote labour just to be tactical. But I hate JC.

The deficit is now in line with EU acceptance of ~3% www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39897498. Now if you try and shift it onto debt, then it is quite clear you have no understanding of what you are trying to make such a statement on.

The deficits for a couple of years massively increased of course after the 2008 financial crash and I think like most developed p countries increased their spending to bail out the banks. Pre the financial crash Labour kept its annual deficits below the EU 3% requirement apart from 2 years in 2005 and 2006 where it was 3.4 and 3.1% . In fact in their first few years of being in government Labour had a surplus each year which happens seldom.

By 2017-2018 the Tories cut the deficit down to around 1.5%. Some economists argue to massively reduce spending when in recession and then in the following years can actually slow down growth and Tories should have spent more during these years or at the very least not done it so severely. Indeed our national debt has only grown since the crash.

Inequality is getting increasingly worse in the UK. We have one of the highest unequal measures in the EU.

Labour say they will try to address that (might not succeed) whilst Cons couldn’t give a toss. No party is perfect and the antisemitism concerns are serious. However, for me it is anyone but Conservatives and Brexit party.

Can't think of anything wrong with Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party,,, apart from...

Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.

Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

But apart from the above he’s just a regular guy trying to make life better for the citizens of the UK 🙄

I am very disappointed in Corbyn's weak leadership but still believe the UK and its people are much safer under him than under Johnson.

I agree with pp that voting Tory effectively means voting for the end of the NHS.

I find it ridiculous that people keep trotting out the claim that he's an anti-semite without any evidence. Just saying it doesn't make it true.

Is this because he has opposed Israel's treatment of Palestinians?

56Beetle, you are a hero for pointing all of this out.

The truth is that Corbyn and McDonnell are hardline Marxists who will crash the economy, divide the country and be impossible to remove once established.

Brexit is a cakewalk compared with the damage Corbyn will do if elected to power. McDonnell is worse, if possible. It won’t matter that Diane Abbott cannot count because the agenda is about naked power and if the figures do not add up, no one will care.

Reasons I won’t be voting labour (and I’m no Tory):

Antisemitism - I’ve heard people from the Labour Party openly blame the Jews for the last financial crisis. Because obviously all bankers are Jews, therefore it’s a legitimate argument?! Right, ok.

IRA/Terrorists - my dh witnessed an IRA bomb go off injuring his colleagues. It affects him to this day, he was just a teen office boy going home from work.

Brexit - we all know JC is a closet brexiteer but he’s willing to forget all that and chase votes. Anyway why the hell do we want to paralyse this country for another year or two trying to negotiate another deal, having another pointless referendum. Just get on with it, we have a no deal Brexit let’s leave with some credibility. It just frustrating that there are so many things the government needs to concentrate on sorting out, and all they do is setting up more Brexit Brexit Brexit. The people are fed up of not knowing what is happening.

Labour have painted themselves into a corner and Been outplayed by both Lib Dem’s and BJ. JC has shown he is not a strong leader.

If you are a remainer why would you vote for labours brexit position and if you are a brexiteer

I find it ridiculous that people keep trotting out the claim that he's an anti-semite without any evidence. Just saying it doesn't make it true.

You’re joking, surely?

That’s some list 56, bring back Ed Miliband all is forgiven

@Pitterpatterpettysteps , for the first time in my long life, I am reluctant to tell people I'm half Jewish. My Jewish dad (now deceased) was awarded several medals for bravery in WWII. I pride myself on being a tough cookie. The UK is not a comfortable place to be Jewish or of Jewish descent because of the creatures Corbyn gives comfort to.
Otherwise it's fiiiiiiiiine.

I am very disappointed in Corbyn's weak leadership but still believe the UK and its people are much safer under him than under Johnson.

Unless of course you're Jewish....

Blimey 56. Agree that is a long list. So, for the people who vote Labour regardless. How can you justify going back to the 70’s. Labour will bankrupt the country. Why on earth would higher rate tax payers choose to stay? They are also a set of people who have the money and ability to plan to leave the Uk.

My husband and I are higher rate tax payers. We will not be staying if Corbyn gets in. We have no dependant children and the world is a much smaller place.

Labour are completely bonkers with their ideas, no private schools, no empty properties, free prescriptions, free university education and so it goes on.

@56Beetle Great C&P skills! Any original thoughts?

My husband and I are higher rate tax payers. We will not be staying if Corbyn gets in. We have no dependant children and the world is a much smaller place.

Good riddance to anyone who thinks like this. I’ve had to put up with plenty of years of stupid nasty divisive Tory policies. It’s called democracy.

Jeremy lives in a world of goodies and baddies and I'm one of the baddies.

free university education

I think it so sad that some people think that this as a concept is ridiculous.

There was nothing terrifying in the last labour manifesto- just perfectly feasible left of centre proposals. So unless this next one is radically different.....

just perfectly feasible left of centre proposals.

I didn't realise you was such the comedian, I bet you still believe it was fully costed as well.

So unless this next one is radically different.....
Well they are already coming out with bizarre statements of removing all traces of privatisation from the NHS, you can see that has been thoroughly thought through, gullable Labour voters will swallow it hole though and wonder why GP's will suddenly all vote for a different party.

gullable Labour voters will swallow it hole though

“I didn't realise you was such the comedian, I bet you still believe it was fully costed as well.”

Certainly better costed than Johnson’s 40 hospitals....