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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be really upset about this?

141 replies

Wayfair2020 · 20/10/2019 09:47

Background: I'm a very shy, quiet person who keeps herself to herself.

All my children in a show and on Friday we watched the dress rehearsal. This is the first show at this theatre group my children have done. Before the start of the show, children came on to the stage and posed for photos (for info, no permission was asked from parents) . Dress rehearsal starts, one of my children comes on to stage and I film him. At their old theatre group, this was allowed. About 30 seconds into the dance, all music stops and one of the theatre group leaders calls across the (packed) hall and says 'who was filming the children?' I looked around as I thought something bad had happened only to notice all eyes on me, so I realised it was me being told off here! So I had to put my hand up and say 'it was me'. I was literally mortified. With that, he came marching over, said to me 'Did you have permission from all the parents in here to film their children? No, I didn't think so. I am going to have to watch you delete it Infront of me right now. This is a safeguarding issue, perhaps you need to come to a safeguarding course that we run for chaperones'. I was actually shaking and deleted the video , whilst being watched by I imagine 300 parents and all the children on stage (including one of mine). My 4 year old son was on stage burst into tears as he didn't understand what was going on. The other theatre leader who is a bit nicer came rushing over to my son and then to me to say 'it's our policy not to film, we should have announced it at the start but I need to check your film has been deleted'. So again, Infront of the packed room I had to prove I had deleted it. By this point I was close to tears myself. I am painfully shy and this was awful.

I watched the dress rehearsal and wanted to cry for the whole hour. As I left with my children at the end, the man approached me in the carpark to once again re-iterate his policies and I said that I didn't appreciate the way it was done Infront of everyone and that I was so humiliated. He said (in a horrible way) 'well you are not giving me the chance to apologise as you are walking away from me' (which I was because I was trying not to cry).

So my question is, AIBU for being so upset? I am SO embarassed that I feel like I don't ever want to go back to the place. If I had known their policy, I obviously would not have filmed. As people were taking photos I naively assumed I could film my son .

I feel that all they needed to do was to tell me discreetly?? Like maybe a little tap on the shoulder to say 'sorry, you're not allowed to film' or to come up to me after and fine, ask me to delete it, but do it discreetly.

FWIW, there are hundreds of pictures of the dress rehearsal all over facebook that I didn't give permission for them or other people to take of my children! (I don't mind, but if I did, I was given no opportunity to say so).

Every time I think of it I cringe, and it's really put a downer on my weekend.

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FrangipaniBlue · 20/10/2019 18:12

@Lovemenorca she was at the front, she wouldn't have known no one else was recording anything Hmm

Lovemenorca · 20/10/2019 18:34

So the OP right at the front

So all those behind her, in a darkened theatre, have to put up with an annoying phone light in the view of the stage.

Wayfair2020 · 20/10/2019 19:34

There was no annoying phone light and I was holding it on my lap, not high in the air.

Many of the photos in Facebook that have gone up today are photos mid-performance which has made me even more upset at the inconsistency. The owners of the theatre company have liked and responded to many of these photos.

As I say, I have no issue with being told not to film, but it was the aggressive and humiliating way it was done. It was incredibly aggressive and he felt very much like a bully. The other owner was much nicer about it and flapping about because she knew he'd been heavy handed.

Thanks again everyone, feeling a bit better this afternoon .

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Karwomannghia · 20/10/2019 19:39

How awful you poor thing. Totally unnecessary. Luckily you were at the front so only a few people could see you really- imagine at the back everyone turning round and being shouted to from the front!

Lovemenorca · 20/10/2019 19:41

* I looked around as I thought something bad had happened only to notice all eyes on me, so I realised it was me being told off here! *

But everyone had been aware of you doing it OP!

Wayfair2020 · 20/10/2019 19:56

19:41Lovemenorca
I'm not really sure what you want me to say? I am upset enough as it is. You seem to me trying to make me feel worse. All eyes were on me because the man was looking at me as he asked who was filming making me literally put my hand up ! He knew it was me before he asked but seemed to want to make me feel awful. It was a hideous humiliating experience and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. People were not staring at me because I was filming, but because he was raising his voice at me.

Ironically I have noticed tonight some photos on FB that parents took during the bit I was filming...! So I wasn't the only one with my phone out. Not sure if that makes me feel better or worse.

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FionaOgre · 20/10/2019 20:03

In that case I would most definitely make a complaint. And make sure to ask what the difference is between you filming and others taking still photographs at the same moment!

It makes me think that these suggestions that his reaction to you was so they can flog dvds of the performances isn't that far fetched.

Wayfair2020 · 20/10/2019 20:06

FionaOgre
I agree - they are making a video of the performance to sell. I am putting together a complaint email as we speak. If anything to stop it happening to anyone else. I know I should toughen up but it has upset me so much this weekend. It was similar to a telling off Infront of the whole school as a child .

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TheSunAlsoRises · 20/10/2019 20:13

I would leave the club. If he talks to a parent like this in front of 300 people I can't imagine how he talks to the children in their classes.

PhilSwagielka · 20/10/2019 20:15

YANBU. They should have taken you to one side instead of doing it in such a humiliating way, and they should have said from the beginning that filming wasn't allowed.

Wanderingraspberry · 20/10/2019 20:40

You poor thing! I'm not shy but would also have been humiliated by that. Bonkers for people to be sharing pictures all over social media but not allow film. If you can face it it's certainly worth asking for clarification of their policy and the reasoning behind it.

FridalovesDiego · 20/10/2019 22:00

We had this at my kid’s primary, but it was just so they could flog us the video they made at the end.

FrangipaniBlue · 22/10/2019 11:44

So all those behind her, in a darkened theatre, have to put up with an annoying phone light in the view of the stage.

What's that got to do with the OPs question/dilemma??

She didn't know she wasn't allowed to film, because people were doing it before the rehearsal started and nobody explicitly told them they could t during the rehearsal.

She didn't know that she was the only one filming, because she was sat at the front so everyone else was behind her and outside her field of view.

Once she was asked to stop, she did.

It's not the filming that's the issue - it's the manner in which the OP was dealt with that's absurd!!!

Pharlapwasthebest · 22/10/2019 14:44

@lovemenorca

That’s a really helpful contribution, well done.

AthollPlace · 22/10/2019 14:47

It’s not just safeguarding. They won’t have permission to film the performance due to copyright. Photos are permitted but filming is not (unless you pay a shit ton for film rights).

katkit · 22/10/2019 14:59

YANBU- raging for you.

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