Kids of famous people saying they are famous in their own right!

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It really drives me mad. You are obviously mainly famous or successful because of connections. I know some are them are talented but surely connections of parents help. David Hasslehoff's daughter has said it. Kelly Osborne, Lilly Allen and loads more.

She also would have had access to huge amounts to set up a brand.

My kids know jaden Smith as the karate kid and thought it was great his dad 'was in some films too'

Emilia Fox is a great actress with a famous family

Oh just remembered I had a long argument with a taxi driver who said Cecilia Ahern only had books out because her dad was taoiseach. I told him it didn't matter because her books were brilliant. Didn't get resolved!

Also just googled Jude Law's son. How is he a model?! Chubby baby face isn't a thing is it?

"Great actress" ? I'd say good but not great. And even if she is, how many other 'great actresses' will never be discovered because they didn't come from a posh and/or famous family? That's the real question.

The entire Fox family are steeped in acting, and now the next gen is doing this as well. You can't tell me their family name does not conver advantages.

I remember Leah Wood modelling, daughter of Ronnie and Jo. Nice woman but safe to say she inherited her fathers's looks rather than her mums. Laughable that she was given modelling jobs.

That actress, Gaynor Faye, a lot of her acting roles were courtesy of tv programmes written by her mum. Coincidence she got casted?

I think with models who are relatives of celebs, they get the work because they are known and will bring publicity to the brand, a bit like influencers, so what they look like is not as important as the more typical model who gets work because they make the clothes look good or have a particular look of the moment.
If a company thinks that using Kaia Gerber in a campaign (for example) is going to enable them to sell more than if they used an unknown model because of the public interest in her, then they are going to do it. That is not to say that they are making the requirement to model "easier" for her than a conventional model, it is just that she is bringing something that a conventional model cannot bring. Of course she is known and people are interested in her because of who her parents are but i don't think is as simple as saying that her getting work is nepotism.

Or to put it another way, these days I think there are 2 types of model, the conventional model who gets work because of her looks/look and the influencer model (often child of a celeb) who gets work because of the interest. Both are alternative means of advertising/selling the clothes and most brands use both types in different circumstances.

Yes, one type got lucky because of their connections, but i am not sure why that is any less acceptable than getting lucky because of your physical appearance, both of which are entirely down to luck/parentage in different ways.

She also would have had access to huge amounts to set up a brand.

And the knowledge that if it all goes wrong - as it must for many if not most fashion start-ups - she could return to the security of her hugely wealthy family. So no real risk.

Not that that is any of her fault. I think Paul and Linda did an excellent job of raising their children, and Stella also makes a point of keeping her own kids out of the spotlight. Wasn't she the one who supposedly got upset when VB (who of course does not keep her kids out of the spotlight) posted pics of her (Stella's) children at a party without pixilating their faces?

I do like SM’s designs and have a couple of things. VB’s are so expensive so wouldn’t anyway, but I just couldn’t buy anything of hers as a non-designer. I saw a programme where she talked about a dress and it sounded like a reading of a press release. The design passion has to be there.

Agree on model / influencers someone like Kaia will get loads of teens / young people buying what she sells.

That actress, Gaynor Faye, a lot of her acting roles were courtesy of tv programmes written by her mum. Coincidence she got casted?

But you wouldnt think Gaynor as related to Kay Mellor though.

None of them would be famous without their parents, even Lilly Allen. She may have some talent and connections but without her fathers money, she would have gone to a normal school where her bit of talent would have been overlooked.

Yes, one type got lucky because of their connections, but i am not sure why that is any less acceptable than getting lucky because of your physical appearance, both of which are entirely down to luck/parentage in different ways.

I agree with your point about how companies hire 'daughter of' models so that they attract attention, ie free advertising. In fact I have heard that even real (ie non celeb) models are often asked how many Instagram followers they have before being booked for a job.

However, I think that modelling used to be a bit like football in the sense that it didn't matter where you went to school, who your parents were or if you lived on a council estate, provided you had the right 'look' or the ability to kick a ball. So in that sense it was sort of egalitarian. Of course the physical traits required to be a model were very 'elitist' and owned only by a tiny minority, but still, it was one of the few areas in life where a young woman could achieve fame and fortune regardless of her background.

Yes and the risk thing. If you put your all into fashion design with no back up and it doesn’t work it’s harder.

It's understandable that the kids follow in the family business I think.

The people I have an issue with is the likes of, say, Callum Best who was famous for having a famous dad but did feck all to earn it.

But you wouldnt think Gaynor as related to Kay Mellor though.

Surely the point is that the casting director would absolutely do just that.

One celeb child who has made his own way is Ronan Farrow. I suspect his celebrity helped him being one of the people to break the Harvey Weinstein case.

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However, Ronan Farrow used his celebrity to benefit others. I wonder if the someone with no connections to the industry could have found out as much as he did.

I really don't know what the Beckhams were thinking of when they allowed their children's everyday lives to be put under such intense scrutiny. Their mother seems hell bent on carving out some special niche for all of them, even to the point of hiring a record producer who launched Justin Bieber's career for one of the boys, it's really tacky behaviour. Everyone loves their kids but there's no point going hell for leather in trying to turn them into superstars, when they are just very bog standard. The eldest one dropped out of a creative course in NY at an exclusive university, then he gets an internship with a top photographer, a shame really because that internship is depriving some young person who may have real talent and no one is fooled into thinking he will become some amazing photographer.......but if they'd been allowed to grow up away from the spotlight they might have fared better. Brooklyn is only going to be subjected to more ridicule and the perception is that he's a talentless rich kid. Harper in years to come may not thank her mother for continually allowing her school work, private little notes and poems she's written to be continually uploaded on to social media, accompanied by sickly over the top commentary. I think the VB is apt, Vulgar Beckham

Lily Allen was discovered on MySpace?? Her D list Dad comedian she barely saw didn’t help her in the music industry.

Gaynor Faye!

I remember being annoyed by the very obvious nepotism going on there as well, for a time in the late 90s.

Agree about Ronan Farrow. Sure, his celebrity helped but he has delivered the goods.

Plus, investigative journalism is actually work. Very hard work in fact, with months of behind the scenes slogging for an often uncertain outcome. A bit different from gurning in a glossy magazine.

Lily Allen being discovered on MySpace is one of the yeah, okay right lies of the music business

Forget the Dad, the Mum is a well connected film producer both Alfie and Lily has parts in her films

They are/were members of the Groucho Club

As if it wasn't easy for her

I really don't know what the Beckhams were thinking of when they allowed their children's everyday lives to be put under such intense scrutiny.

Because for quite some time the Beckhams have basically been Kardashians - celebrity without substance. Sure, David was a very talented footballer, but he hasn't kicked a ball in years. As for Vicky, she was a singer who couldn't sing, turned designer who couldn't design. So in order to extend their flagging 'brand', they have to use their children. And it's despicable. It's not like they need the money, is it?

Lily Allen was discovered on MySpace??

Her mother's credentials are a bit more impressive than her dad's. She had access to connections most young girl's couldn't even dream of. She worked hard - no doubt about it - and her use of myspace to promote herself was unique at the time, but she was hardly some random who got lucky.