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Kids of famous people saying they are famous in their own right!

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Belledan1 · 13/10/2019 11:47

It really drives me mad. You are obviously mainly famous or successful because of connections. I know some are them are talented but surely connections of parents help. David Hasslehoff's daughter has said it. Kelly Osborne, Lilly Allen and loads more.

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FizzyGreenWater · 14/10/2019 11:18

Plus it must really suck to have famous beautiful parents and be an average looking teen

Demi Moore’s daughters are a prime example of this. Their mother was stunning but unfortunately they look like their father. The eldest especially has been slated for her lack of looks for her entire life.

Anais Gallagher isn't 'striking' or 'quirky looking' - she is actively plain, looking seriously like her father. So if the current climate means she gets to avoid that kind of treatment and carry off the idea that she is a 'model' rather than 'someone who is photographed because of who her father is' - then maybe the way things are now is preferable!

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 12:34

(I notice that Will Smith and his wife, like the Beckhams, were keen to shove their kids in front of the camera as soon as they could).

I think it's appalling when parents use their children as PR props. The children don't have the ability to give consent as to whether or not they want to be in the public eye. At least Kate Moss waited until Lila was a reasonable age - 17 - to decide if she wanted to be a model. She had been very protective of her privacy until then.

But the likes of the Beckhams or Angelina Jolie hauling out their kids for photos ops. Ugh. We've seen time and again that it is perfectly possible for celeb kids to have relatively normal upbringings. Yet they chose to shove their kids into the spotlight when they're still way too young to understand the possible consequences.

FizzyGreenWater · 14/10/2019 13:18

Oh and no way would Lila Moss be in the position she is in without being Kate's daughter. She is a fairly ordinarily attractive young woman but nothing more.

ssd · 14/10/2019 13:31

Totally agree about Kate moss's daughter. It must be hard when your mother is a beauty and you are just pretty. The only one who is even more beautiful than their gorgeous mum is Kaia Gerber. And her brother too. Those 2 really lucked out.

PhilSwagielka · 14/10/2019 13:37

On the plus side, there are footballers' kids who are genuinely talented, regardless of who their dads are. Frank Lampard, Ronald Koeman, Tyrese Campbell (his dad Kevin played for Everton and Arsenal in the '90s) and Kaspar Schmeichel are all the children of footballers and all talented in their own right.

On the other hand, there was Jordi Cruyff.

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 13:40

I don't think any of the 'daughter of' models would have their careers without their parents' names.

Even Kaia Gerber. She might be a model as she does have the height and figure, but no way would she be fronting campaigns for Marc Jacobs or having so much media attention. She'd be just another anonymous model among many. Although she's obviously very pretty, she is bland and lacks that special something her mother had. They style her so that she looks like her mother but if you look at her face, it's obvious that she takes after her dad. By contrast, Presley Gerber is the spit of his mum, right down to the beauty spot.

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 13:43

@PhilSwagielka

The thing about football - like all sports - is that it's one of the few areas of celebrity which is a genuine meritocracy. If you can't kick the ball well, no team is going to hire you, no matter if your dad is Gary Lineker or Diego Maradona or whoever.

By contrast, the daugher of a famous model will likely get work even if she's only averagely pretty and would never get past the door of a modelling agency if her mum was a teacher. And acting is not that much more meritocratic either.

Sceptre86 · 14/10/2019 13:44

Having a famous parent opens doors and keeps you well connected. They get a leg up that other people don't. That being said the door wont stay open forever if they are mediocre. Brooklyn Beckham hasn't been up to much on the world of photography lately because he isn't all that good and when the blinkers fall off these kids suffer because they have beloved their own hype. I like Bella Hadid but that is not the face she was born with she has had a lot of work to look like that and would not have been able to model without it.

Sceptre86 · 14/10/2019 13:46

*believed even

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 13:49

I like Bella Hadid but that is not the face she was born with she has had a lot of work to look like that and would not have been able to model without it.

Her parents aren't really famous though. I know her mum was a model but she wasn't a big name. It's family money rather than fame which got her and her sister established.

PhilSwagielka · 14/10/2019 14:13

@IcedPurple EXACTLY. If you're crap, you're crap, no matter who your dad is. Jordi Cruyff was nowhere near his dad's level.

Quite a few players I followed in the '90s have kids who just do normal jobs or are involved in football to some extent, although Chris Waddle's daughter was on some talent show.

Fookadook · 14/10/2019 14:16

There’s no way Anais Gallagher would have been a model if she didn’t have a famous father. She’s distinctly ordinary looking.

LemonPrism · 14/10/2019 14:27

@Fookadook I agree, in fact I'd say she edges into the unattractive side of average.

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 14:32

I agree about Anais Gallagher. But is she really a 'model'? By which I mean: What campaigns has she fronted? What covers has she been on? What catwalks has she walked?

I could get someone to take some flattering photos of me, put them on Instagram and call myself a 'model'!

ExecutiveFiat · 14/10/2019 14:33

Agreed Fook AG is just plain. Ditto BB. He didn’t luck out in the looks department. Mind you all of his siblings are the same..

PhilSwagielka · 14/10/2019 14:34

I think she's pretty, but not striking. You have to be striking to be a model. Look at Linda Evangelista for instance.

Speaking of model teens, Steven Gerrard's daughters have started modelling as well and one of them had a really gross shirt with something about diets on. They're in their early teens, I think? Gerrard does have some old fashioned ideas about gender though, he made some comment about his daughters doing his son's ironing.

Incidentally, I recently read a Noel Streatfeild book called Curtain Up about a fictional example of this, a group of kids whose mum and her family are famous theatre actors, and they all feel like they're under loads of pressure to live up to the family name, especially as their mad grandma makes it clear she wants them all - including the boy, Mark, who isn't remotely arsed about acting, although he can sing - to go into performing.

Icantreachthepretzels · 14/10/2019 16:24

It's all in the eye of the beholder though. I would say Anais Gallagher is very striking looking, and the more I look at her face the more I like it ... but I certainly wouldn't use the word 'pretty' when I first saw her. There are photographs of her where she looks absolutely beautiful - and then (like everyone else) there are considerably less beautiful photos of her.

I don't think any of these models - whether first generation or the daughters - are actually massively more beautiful then any other reasonably pretty girl. They just tick the boxes of what designers are looking for to hang their clothes on and happened to be in the right place at the right time to get discovered. Once they have a professional do their hair and make up then of course they look amazing - but none of them roll out of bed looking like that.
These new generation of models are all pretty enough - some of them wouldn't make the grade if they didn't have the connections, but that would be more a lack of height or there being an overabundance of similarly beautiful girls that they just didn't get noticed. As a lot of getting noticed as a model is just down to pure luck some of them might have made it anyway. None of them are too plain to be a model, lots of models are plain without the hair and makeup - they get chosen for their height or their bone structure.

The famous daughters get a much easier ride than girls starting out in the industry without the same contacts - but they're not better or worse than any other model.

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 16:59

None of them are too plain to be a model, lots of models are plain without the hair and makeup - they get chosen for their height or their bone structure.

Even with all the wonders of professional makeup, hair styling, flattering angles and filters etc etc, some of these 'daughter of' models STILL look pretty ordinary. And most of them are way too short to be considered as models - that is if they weren't from a famous family.

There's a reason modelling is a lucrative profession, and that's because not just anyone can do it. Only a tiny proportion of young women have all the physical characteristics required to be a top model. Being the daughter of someone famous, however, allows you to circumvent this.

RueCambon · 14/10/2019 17:17

Lottie Moss is another pretty girl who would never have become a model if she'd had same sur name. She is pretty but kate has the 'IT' factor.

It is a rare thing

sylviemc · 14/10/2019 17:46

well i am not exactly famous but i am well known in some places and i used my birth name and my sons have their dad's name that means they can continue in anonymity. One of my sons ever referred to my work in a uni essay and laughed because the tutor never knew the connection lol. It can be done but perhaps less easy if you are in the stratosphere layers, which I am not, and also how public you face is along with your name- which mine isn't fortunately. But both my sons have done ok in their own ways and with no more than normal parental support from me xxx

daisychain01 · 14/10/2019 18:04

Yeah it’s a leg up but they still work hard

Work hard?? Give me strength!

They don't know the meaning of the word, they're clueless and by and large talentless, the lot of 'em. I can only think of one "famous child" who deserves any success, Stella McCartney, that's about it.

PhilSwagielka · 14/10/2019 18:04

My dad wasn't a celeb but he was famous in certain circles - he was a journalist who was on TV quite a lot in the '80s, often talking about energy and nuclear power, and he edited a magazine called Power In Europe and did some activism for Greenpeace on the side. He died when I was a kid but if he was around now, I doubt he'd want me and my brother using him to get work. He'd probably give us advice, but that's it. And I prefer it that way. I do feel a bit of a failure for not achieving as much as he did, but Mum's never given us grief about it.

MarshaBradyo · 14/10/2019 18:09

It is an isolated quirk to be as striking as a top model. The children usually are close but obvs not complete clones so they miss that one thing. Still attractive usually. What they do have which is wanted more is loads of followers so marketers will use them.

In terms of working hard it probably feels like it in that they turn up to loads of things. But that’s not the hard part - which is getting started, being noticed, having no funds.

manicmij · 14/10/2019 18:11

If being famous gave you child a foit up the ladder wouldn't you do it? Agree though many of those so called talented offspring would struggle to be noticed other than by the fame of their parent/s.

IcedPurple · 14/10/2019 18:13

*I can only think of one "famous child" who deserves any success, Stella McCartney, that's about it."

Stella did work hard and go through the traditional routes, that is true.

However, having Naomi Campbell AND Kate Moss walk in her end of course fashion show must have helped a tad.