To think the carotid artery is not a porn prop.

[SmileEachDay]

This from Twitter today.

link to the Tweet

I really don't want to hear about other peoples' sexual fetishes in detail. Keep it to yourself. Hearing about other peoples' sex lives is grim and because you have some fetish or other doesn't make it less grim.

I am interested in the increasing number of women being abused, or being killed and consent to rough sex being used as a defence. That's what I'm on this thread for, not to be an audience for someone's desire to talk about their sexual preferences.

I'll make sure I start a petition to ban paragliding seeing as there's a similar risk that a parachute could fail and, as a result, you could die. We must put an end to all 'near death' activities.

I suppose we should ban a multitude of things as people have previously died? Will we ban F1 because of Aryton Senna's death and Niki Lauda's accident?

See, that wouldn't make sense. Because people have preferences and like doing different things. So maybe, you know, leave women to decide whether they want to or not?

I am interested in the increasing number of women being abused, or being killed and consent to rough sex being used as a defence. That's what I'm on this thread for, not to be an audience for someone's desire to talk about their sexual preferences.

So am I.

Posters trying to turn the thread into an education on kink are missing the point.

@TatianaLarina

For your information, I'm not into it. I never said I was, remember. You can go through my previous posts if you wish. I simply said women can decide for themselves if they like it, or not. I don't but I'm not going to stop someone from doing so.

But good try, nonetheless. I try not to post about what I personally enjoy because that is very much private, and very much none of your business.

So maybe, you know, leave women to decide whether they want to or not?

No-one cares what you do, simply asking you not to bore us with it.

You can go through my previous posts if you wish.

I’d rather read less than more of your posts tbh.

I'll make sure I start a petition to ban paragliding

If men were ramming women forcibly into paraglidiers, or coercing then into paragliders or shaming them for not being cool to get them into oaragliders or just suddenly whipping out a paraglider when the woman was already in an aeroplane then you might have a point.

Oh we can agree on that, for sure. You're probably one of the least interesting posters I've ever seen on this forum, to be honest. A sheep comes to mind. Make sure you follow your crowd, dear.

A friend of mine had a terrible accident paragliding and she never did it again.

And like clockwork, there goes Tat skipping back into line behind Smiles. It's beautiful seeing it all come together.

PepePig I'll make sure I start a petition to ban paragliding seeing as there's a similar risk that a parachute could fail and, as a result, you could die. We must put an end to all 'near death' activities.

Paragliding isn't illegal. There is very little you can do to make it illegal, and if there is, it almost never happens. You cannot say that about your particular "hobby".

I suppose we should ban a multitude of things as people have previously died? Will we ban F1 because of Aryton Senna's death and Niki Lauda's accident?

Again. Same comment.

PepePig Oh we can agree on that, for sure. You're probably one of the least interesting posters I've ever seen on this forum, to be honest. A sheep comes to mind

Genuinely interested. What is it that you think makes you qualified to comment on whether other posters are "interesting" or not? And do you consider yourself "interesting". I find you a little irritating, annoying, perhaps, but interesting - no.

And like clockwork, there goes Tat skipping back into line behind Smiles. It's beautiful seeing it all come together

What are you on about?

@PepePig Thanks for attempting to inject some reason into this conversation. Unfortunately you're fighting an uphill battle.

I explained how I once 'choked' a partner because SHE asked me to as it 'turned her on' (and I was apparently rubbish at it because I was 'too gentle'). Now I'm apparently an abuser, a sympathiser, have blood on my hands and...oh yeah...I'm crap in bed (possibly true, I've not asked!)

Men are scum, ALL porn is bad (including that involving Millionaire porn stars), any woman with a fetish is a victim, consensual BDSM and rape are basically the same thing and any 'edge' play is entirely perpetuated by the male whose interests are to kill his female partner...Oh, and anyone who disagrees with ANY of these points supports the scummy bloke in this news story.

...did I miss anything?

did I miss anything?

Yes, the point.

What I and @PepePig have done is simply state that attacking those who do enjoy sexual acts that are outside of the norm is not any way to actually combat the issue raised with the original tweet.

We both agreed wholeheartedly that the normalisation of it is NOT good.

However telling other posters they’re damaged or abused for liking things you don’t is somewhat ludicrous to me.

Thing is - it IS being normalised and I’m more interested in finding a way to educate younger people around the issue rather than banning it and denying that there are those who have an enjoyment for it. By removing it altogether from the realms of social acceptability shuts doors to conversations that could, in fact, lead to helping a young woman know what she may have to expect from sexual encounters and more importantly how to protect herself from it and give her the tools to know how within her rights she is to say no and not bow to pressure.

@PBo83 I sympathise as I’ve known women who laugh at how ‘vanilla’ the men they’ve been with are because they were outright shocked and confused when they were asked to slap/choke etc. So the issue isn’t purely a male domination situation.

Navi - shock and confusion is precisely how any man should respond to such a request. Bravo to the men in question.

@NaviSprite Thankyou. I said before that anything 'kinky' I have ever done has been because a female partner has suggested it. As a guy I never wanted to come across as 'pervy' so, even if I did think about (retrospectively, fairly tame things) I wouldn't suggest them. I don't defend the guy in this case but I defend anyone's right to explore their sexuality (man or woman) if it's mutually consensual.

However telling other posters they’re damaged or abused for liking things you don’t is somewhat ludicrous to me.

They’re as entitled to their opinions as anyone else. I may not agree with them but they’re views are equally valid as the BDSM bores.

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I don’t dispute that some women do like it and are the active drivers in it happening in their bedrooms. But in the same way as I don’t support sex work (while accepting that a small number of strippers or escorts probably do fall into the Happy Hooker-style category) because of the harm done to women as a class thanks to its existence, I’m not going to cheerlead anyone piping up to say how much they enjoy “safe” choking - not that such a thing exists - because like it or not, they’re also helping to normalise something that absolutely shouldn’t be normalised.

I can both accept women may freely choose to do something and also disagree vehemently with their choice to do that thing because their actions contribute to wider harms perpetrated against women.

I do find it ironic that my messages get deleted and yet long descriptions of why people enjoy their harmless little kinks are left to stand.