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To think the carotid artery is not a porn prop.

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SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 11:22

This from Twitter today.

link to the Tweet

To think the carotid artery is not a porn prop.
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PBo83 · 10/10/2019 14:50

@SmileEachDay - I don't know Tarantino personally and I wasn't there so I can't give an answer. I was merely citing the reasons HE gave in an interview. Maybe he's an abusive pervert, maybe he was telling the truth and wanted to protect the actress whilst ensuring the realism of the shot. Who knows? I wasn't defending him.

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 10/10/2019 14:51

Porn has changed so much in a fairly short space of time, and it's that normalisation of ever more extreme acts - including so-called breath play - that increases the risk of harm to women and girls, especially younger women and girls just starting to dip their toe into the arena of being sexually active. What a PP said above about boys seeing extreme sex acts before ever having so much as touched a girl is so accurate. Anal, choking, rough deep throating are staples on Pornhub and the like. It must be hard not to take away the message that this is how sex is supposed to be. And now tweets like this, instead of taking the opportunity to do some good by saying something like "ignore the false impression porn gives you, choking is decidedly risky so best not, eh", are further normalising it with its "don't you even know the basics? You don't choke like that, obviously you choke like this, doofus" vibe with that underlying message that choking is just so common and widespread and expected.

I say all that as someone who enjoys being submissive in bed. For me sub play is an expression of ultimate trust in my DH, and part of that trust is knowing he could hurt me but he never would or does, beyond the very mild parameters we have agreed between us (I'm not really into S&M so it's not about pain, our play manifests itself in other ways). I would never, ever mess around with so-called breath play. There is just too much that can go wrong, I could not guarantee having control of my faculties to tap out if something started to go wrong and by the time he realised it could be too late. And because I love him, I don't want to place him in the position of having to live with himself after having inadvertently caused me serious, and completely avoidable, harm just for the sake of a slightly more intense orgasm.

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 14:52

You said “because he’s an experienced director and knows how to get the best shot”

Was that a quote? It wasn’t clear - looked like your answer to a question.

Why do you think he chose that shot to do personally?

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TatianaLarina · 10/10/2019 14:53

Who knows?

The actress involved? Who told her side of the story in an interview upthread if you and bothered to watch it.

PBo83 · 10/10/2019 14:54

I was, again, citing his response. I was paraphrasing as it was a while ago I saw the interview. Like I say, maybe he is a manipulative pervert, I don't really like the guy (from what I've seen) so not going to defend him.

Divebar · 10/10/2019 14:54

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg

I agree with all of that

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 14:56

I’m asking what you think PBo83

Why do you think he made that choice?

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pallisers · 10/10/2019 14:56

The issue here is that this has gone from being something that some people with unusual interests did sometimes to something that many men expect and just assume they can do with no warning or discussion, like it's the equivalent of playing with your partner's nipples or something. It's not. It can kill you. Many, probably most, women don't like or want it. If a few do then great, good for you, but that's not really relevant to the discussion because the whole point is that it's being treated as a standard and non-negotiable part of sex by a lot of men, and that wasn't the case even ten years ago. Something has changed, and it's not surprising that people may want to talk about how and why that's happened.

This is the entire point. I don't care what people do in their own sex lives although I wouldn't put my hands anywhere near someone's throat no matter what orgasm they'd get from it - I know how dangerous it is - so amazed at all these men/women who take the risk they would hurt/kill someone just to enhance their orgasm but different strokes I suppose.

I do care about the normalisation of a niche fetish that could kill. I have 3 older teenagers/young adults. I never thought I'd have to have a conversation about choking in sex with them but I did.

PepePig · 10/10/2019 14:56

@PBo83

Sorry you've got a relentless OP hounding you. It's like watching Good Morning Britain with Piers Morgan barking at someone for having a tv, 500 times. If I see Quentin Tarantino one more time in this thread I'm going to heave.

PBo83 · 10/10/2019 14:56

@OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg

Yup, can't argue with any of that

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 14:58

PepePig

Don’t be passive aggressive. If you have an issue, why not address me directly?

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PBo83 · 10/10/2019 15:02

@SmileEachDay - I don't care! I was citing his response in an interview I saw. I don't know him, I don't know her and I don't particularly like either of them (from a casual observers/ film watchers point of view).

Maybe he's telling the truth, maybe she is. Maybe, as I suspect, the truth may well lay somewhere in between. Someone mentioned the interview and I said that I had observed Tarantino's response to it and what he said.

So far, I've been told that I've got blood on my hands, that I'm a pervert wanking off to a forum and that I'm a sympathiser to abusers. NOTHING I have said implies any of the above.

diddl · 10/10/2019 15:02

" to something that many men expect and just assume they can do with no warning or discussion,"

But do these men not realise that they are watching porn?

XXXXXX42 · 10/10/2019 15:03

SmileEachDay you are hounding some poor poster about something stupid.

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 15:03

PBo83

Interesting. Ok.

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PepePig · 10/10/2019 15:04

@XXXXXX42

Here, here.

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 15:05

XXXXXX42

In your opinion, which you are entitled to. I find the unwillingness of men to call other men out interesting. I don’t think it’s “stupid”.

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PBo83 · 10/10/2019 15:06

@diddl

I think MEN do (I sometimes look at porn but am mature enough to understand it isn't representative of a mutual sexual relationship).

The concern is, quite rightly, that with porn being widely accessible to any young person (not just boys) with a smartphone that they are not mature enough to understand the difference.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/10/2019 15:07

I do care about the normalisation of a niche fetish that could kill. I have 3 older teenagers/young adults. I never thought I'd have to have a conversation about choking in sex with them but I did.

My niece is 14. It's probably going to have to be me who talks to her about this stuff, since her mum is too religious and horrified by the very idea of the conversation. DH has already had some very pointed conversations with her older brother.

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 15:08

Pepe

Is there something you wanted to say? Or are you happy just making snide comments?

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/10/2019 15:09

I really, really do not want to hear anything about any specific bloke's porn watching habits in this thread.

SmileEachDay · 10/10/2019 15:11

Prodigal indeed.

I have multiple issues with porn and completely condemn - with no apology - anyone who uses it. They do not care about the commodification and exploitation of women. That’s a whole thread in itself though!

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PBo83 · 10/10/2019 15:16

@SmileEachDay

That's entirely your opinion and is no more or less valid than my own. As it happens most of the time I watch porn it is with my wife who enjoys it too. Some people enjoy pornography, some don't and that's cool.

I, too, as outlined above, had my personal concerns about 'modern' porn, its themes and the impact it may have on younger people and echo sentiments from most on here.

beautifulmelody · 10/10/2019 15:19

Some men enjoy watching rape on tape, some don't, but it's totes cool innit...

beautifulmelody · 10/10/2019 15:19

Fucking hell, this bloke gets worse and worse.