To wonder why Prince Harry got annoyed with Sky News reporter?

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It seems very out of character for Harry? I wonder if he misinterpreted and thought she was asking about the lawsuit...

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Peter Phillips was fifth in line to the throne when he was born. His birth was announced, reported, and Princess Anne was photographed leaving the hospital. No fuss, she went through the motions and everyone went back to normal.

Peter Phillips was fifth in line to the throne when he was born. His birth was announced, reported, and Princess Anne was photographed leaving the hospital. No fuss, she went through the motions and everyone went back to normal

Pretty much all happened at Archie’s birth too.

Except for the mother being photographed. In that respect, Meghan followed the example of the Queen who wasn’t photographed after her births either.

Pretty much all happened at Archie’s birth too.

Except for the mother being photographed. In that respect, Meghan followed the example of the Queen who wasn’t photographed after her births either.

But what a fuss they made about it.

And I hardly need tell you, Meghan is not the Queen..

You would have thought that in the two years or so that H and M were an item, just once Harry would have thought to himself ' I'd like to meet my future father in law'. Considering he decided to marry Meghan having only met her mother , and M would have to fit into a very demanding and alien role in a foreign country. he might have been anxious to know more about her family of origin. Quite apart from it being extremely stressful for her father to meet all her inlaws just a few days from the wedding, surely it would have been stressful for Harry himself to do it that way? What kind of time and attention would he have been able to give his future father in law amidst all the hurly burly of the wedding preparations a few days before? Absolute madness and completely ill judged.

Did they make a fuss though? IIRC they released a statement saying the arrangements for the birth would be kept private and the press and Mumsnet went into meltdown. I'd say that was the source of the fuss, not the couple themselves.

“And I hardly need tell you, Meghan is not the Queen..”

So therefore should have appeared to be photographed hours after giving birth. In exactly the way Mumsnetters were rightly outraged that other royal women felt obliged to do.

You would have thought that in the two years or so that H and M were an item, just once Harry would have thought to himself ' I'd like to meet my future father in law'.

Is it not possible that Harry is privy to information about Thomas Markle that we are not?

And I don't understand why people feel they're so entitled to see photos of a baby they're never likely to meet. Babies aren't really that interesting! And isn't it only natural that Archie's parents want to control access to him? It's the same as with the Cambridge kids. Apart from occasionally being papped when out and about, all photos of them come via their parents.

When you consider the media circus that was William and Harry's childhood, it's not that surprising is it?

He most probably is, but even if he's an alcoholic (as has been insinuated) or whatever, surely he would have wanted to meet his wife's father before proposing? If there was a massive issue with Thomas, such that Harry didn't want to meet him, why was he asked to give her away?

Yes nobody knows what goes on that the muck raking press missed, how on earth does anyone know for sure if Harry met his father- in-law or not.

And I hardly need tell you, Meghan is not the Queen

If your concern is if Meghan followed ‘protocol’ then I’d say following the Queen’s example would cover that.

If H and M wanted to control access, and it's completely understandable why they would, they could have followed the example of the Cambridges, but in a stepped down way. In other words, they could have released a brief statement after the birth , giving the location and time of the birth, without prior statements about what they wouldn't be doing. A photo could have been taken at home by Kate maybe or someone trusted by the family, and released a week or two later. A photo of the whole baby, not bits of him, in colour.
The Instagram could have followed the model of the rest of the RF and been kept brief, factual and only relating to events, not personal commentary or quotes from other sources.
M would have been well advised to ask her 'friends' to keep absolutely silent, as William and Kate's are. Keep all the celebrity lovely nonsense to a minimum.
Not preach about the environment whilst doing nothing personally to take action or make sacrifices.
Make no personal comments about the press (The Lion King).
Be very careful not to be seen to be promoting the interests of friends
Take advice and listen to it.
M to be seen to be interested in learning about the culture of this country, perhaps not spell words in Americanised form on their Instagram would have been a start.
M not turning up in jeans to Wimbledon and then expecting to take up a large amount of seats for herself and friends , and be a prima donna about photos.

William and Kate are pretty much a perfect template of how to control their image but keep maximum privacy. They only had to watch and learn, but they don't want to do that, they want to make statements and draw attention to themselves, they want to be special. The only thing that is special is the institution itself. Prince Charles and Camilla also work the system pretty well. We don't know what they do privately or what they think . If Charles makes statements as he has done in the past about architecture or agriculture etc, he is seen to take action himself to correct the wrongs. He doesn't moan about pesticides then be seen promoting them.

@Portia because Thomas has clearly said he's never met Harry.

I think we are seeing Harry's true colours now that he isn't being protected by the official Royal PR. He comes across so entitled. No time for him at all.

Portia: Yes nobody knows what goes on that the muck raking press missed, how on earth does anyone know for sure if Harry met his father- in-law or not.

Exactly. No-one really knows what goes on behind closed doors. But for some reason the public like to guess, surmise, imagine, extrapolate. They pick up in every little titbit of gossip in the press and take it as gospel. Because they’ve heard that when the press write about someone in a certain way, that they’re giving a big hint as to the real story. I can’t be doing with all the drama of the press anymore. They think they have all the control, it’s a joke. THEY’RE a joke.

Who decrees that a groom MUST meet his future father in law before the wedding anyway?? Is this regardless of the fact that the person may have been a neglectful, absent or nasty father her whole life, or who promised to not go to the media with stories from her childhood but then betrayed them by doing exactly that? I don’t care if THomas Markle was or wasn’t any of these things, I just don’t think someone MUST do something just because some members of the public say it’s the right thing to do. The royals will have their reasons for doing what they do, they don’t need to discuss it all with every Tom, Dick and Harry. (Or members of the press)

In what way are Meghan and Harry 'preaching'? I really would like someone to share real actual evidence of that instead of just repeating something they read on the Daily Mail comments section.

M and H have some opinions about things. They are not harmful opinions in any way, in fact they are benign and decent opinions. Why on earth would opinions about climate change or education for women annoy anyone?

I am not a supporter of the monarchy in any way at all. However, the members of the royal family are real people not soap opera characters.

Harry had someone who he was very close to who acted as an advisor for years. He left just before or after Harry married Meghan. I can't remember his name. I wonder if this is part of the reason things have gone tits up? Apparently this chap was like a father figure to him.

@RoseQuartzGlow They did a press call a few days after the birth, with the baby visible.

And I think the story about Meghan demanding a clear area at Wimbledon was proved to be BS as she was in the members' enclosure (where jeans ticket holders couldn't have sat there even if they wanted to.

@RoseQuartzGlow I agree

@Idontwanttotalk Yes that would be a totally delightful headline to read about yourself.

Christ, some people have a truly astonishing lack of empathy.

I think H and M are confused about their place in the world.

Being a Royal is different to being a celebrity and it seems to me that they want both. But they are not private citizens and with the taxpayer contribution to their lives comes public scrutiny. That is part of the deal. This is not the Hollywood spotlight, it is very different to that. Perhaps this was not made clear to MM before they got married, but Harry of all people should have known this.

I can see that if you support their forays into the political arena (environmentalism / feminism) then you’re going to think it’s all marvellous and they’re beyond reproach and the mean horrible press are ganging up on them. But this kind of stuff also really annoys a lot of people who are also tax-payers and there was always going to be a backlash. Particularly with the green stuff, charges of hypocrisy are inevitable.

I understand that they are seeking a purpose in life but in doing it in this way they have created enormous pressure for themselves. And going after the press is completely the wrong move and will only add to that pressure. Is it so very difficult to keep a low profile, enjoy your lucky life and ignore what the bloody Mail has to say about you?

I always liked Harry and wish him the best but I don’t think that any of this is going to work out well.

Yet another thread and the same people devoting themselves full time to posting. Check your MN use posters, this is an unhealthy obsession. Not everyone has to think the same thoughts as you, not everyone has to respond to people the same way you do. We are not the same and variation is what makes us interesting. It's a bright sunny day, go outside, take a walk, look up a RL friend.

@RoseQuartzGlow

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As soon as Queen E dies it’s time to dispense with the lot of them. Nothing against Harry and Megs personally but they are taking all the benefits and complaining non-stop about the negatives. And they are both from odd families, Charles is a halfwit that treated his wife like shit, Harry also seems dense. Ever since his ‘raghead’ comments I’ve thought little of him. Meghan’s family wouldn’t look out of place on a Jeremy Kyle/Jerry Springer type show.

In what way are Meghan and Harry 'preaching'? I really would like someone to share real actual evidence of that instead of just repeating something they read on the Daily Mail comments section.

If you tried reading some news other than the Daily Mail comments section, you’d probably be more aware.

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