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To wonder why Prince Harry got annoyed with Sky News reporter?

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elprup · 03/10/2019 13:30

It seems very out of character for Harry? Confused I wonder if he misinterpreted and thought she was asking about the lawsuit...

twitter.com/TheRoyalExpert/status/1179155649898467329

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BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 08:00

What did she ask? I can’t really hear. Is there a longer clip?

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 08:00

This is William managing to be perfectly civil to the same journalist three years ago (they all know each other);

m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXi1vjJpenQ

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 08:02

Bert, this one has subtitles;

m.youtube.com/watch?v=QoUPmaMCb9Q

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 08:08

I’m none the wiser. it sounds as if she’s asking why he bothered visiting whatever it was he was visiting. Which is a bit of a strange thing for a royal correspondent to ask, surely?

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 08:11

No she was asking about a rather candyfloss exchange he’d had.

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 08:16

So basically she was saying “what’s the point of what you just did? Which, frankly, we could all ask. But not the time or the place for her to, surely?

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 08:21

Well he’d randomly told some young people at an African clinic to “hold on to their dreams”, “be kind” and something or other about the environment. I think the feeling was that there was a slight disconnect between his surroundings and the non-specific inspirational epithets that were issuing from him.

He should be able to parry straightforward journalistic questions like “what are you hoping to achieve?” & “is it important?” if he does, in fact, know what he’s trying to achieve and why it’s important.

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 08:29

“He should be able to parry straightforward journalistic questions like “what are you hoping to achieve?” & “is it important?” if he does, in fact, know what he’s trying to achieve and why it’s important”
Well, yes he should. But it seems bizarre that so much is being made of this brief exchange. And your link to that interview with William is odd- why is it relevant?

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 05/10/2019 08:29

Text of FT article

As an Eton schoolboy, Prince Harry thought he had cracked the problem that has haunted his life. He could sidestep the journalists hounding his family by setting up his own newspaper with his brother Prince William and fill it with real royal facts. His friends politely laughed it off.

Fast forward a couple of decades and the Duke of Sussex, once seen as the royal family’s beaming rogue, is back on a mission to remake Fleet Street.

This time the 35-year-old is bolstered by an Instagram account with 9m followers (more than the combined print circulation of all UK daily newspapers) and a team of merciless libel lawyers. By his side is his wife Meghan, the savvy Californian actress who is changing how the world sees the Windsors — and how Prince Harry sees the world.

On Tuesday, the duchess announced something that was, in many ways, ordinary: she sued the Mail on Sunday for publishing private letters to her estranged father Thomas Markle. The royals have issued writs against publishers so often it could be a rite of passage.

Back in 1849, Prince Albert established the “law of confidence” with a lawsuit against the printer of bootleg copies of etchings he made with Queen Victoria. Prince Harry’s mother Diana used that precedent against a paper that published photographs of her sweating in a gym. Even Queen Elizabeth has sued The Sun for publishing a leaked copy of her Christmas broadcast.

What made this legal foray remarkable was the 500-word online broadside that came with it. Raw, emotional, brimming with righteous anger, the statement was the voice of Harry unbound. What it lacked in facts or vetting it made up for in chutzpah. His warmth, public service during two military tours of Afghanistan and a rebellious streak have him vying with his grandmother the Queen to be the UK’s most popular royal. But one person who knows the duke well admitted it was more “machine gun than sniper rifle”, adding: “You might think it unwise to pick a fight with all the press.” No royal has ever tried anything like it, perhaps for good reason.

Britain’s tabloids, Prince Harry wrote, were peddling “relentless propaganda”, “fabrications” and “lie after lie”. His new wife had been “vilified”. He also referred to the 1997 death of his mother in a Paris car crash while fleeing paparazzi. “I’ve seen what happens when someone I love is commoditised to the point that they are no longer treated or seen as a real person,” he wrote. “I lost my mother and now I watch my wife falling victim to the same powerful forces.” He followed up on Friday with legal action in his own name against two more tabloids.

The UK’s first multiracial royal couple faced a media onslaught from the start. The official statement acknowledging their relationship was a plea to cease the “racial undertone” of coverage. The past 18 months would have been dizzying, with a wedding televised around the world, the birth of baby Archie and the duchess’s painfully public rift with her father, tempted into disclosures by tabloid money. The proudly “woke” pair have also committed some howlers: they gallivanted on private jets while preaching action on climate change. “Heir Heads,” cried The Sun.

For the duke, this fight is about more than his wife. A lifetime of pent-up anger has gushed out, against the advice of cautious aides. His youthful tangles with tabloids include publishing a video from his days at Sandhurst, the military academy. The press lapped up other transgressions, from a nude Las Vegas party to wearing Nazi fancy dress.

People close to the duke say he sees himself mounting a bigger mission against a manipulative and deceitful press — the rot in Britain’s civic life.

“Such crap,” responds one tabloid editor. “It is the most extraordinary statement I have ever seen come from the royal household,” says Penny Junor, his biographer. “To make the comparison with his mother was over-emotional and excessive . . . This smacks of Harry on his own.”

That indeed may be the point. Diana called him “my danger-loving Harry” and he now seems intent on blazing a distinctive trail. This year the Sussexes established a separate household and a charity foundation.

His wife, as a former television star, was used to Hollywood’s more controlled media style, in which tabloid influence is waning as fast as its revenues. Whether that model can work for taxpayer-funded royals is another matter. Now sixth in line to the throne, Prince Harry is trying to re-engineer the pact between the royals and the press that sees them trading access for half-decent coverage and a bit of peace. “The game,” to Harry, is just dangerous folly.

In addition to using direct social media channels and tightening up access to staple fodder like pictures of the royal baby, Prince Harry has his sights on the Royal Rota, the self-governing press club that decides who attends events and how material is shared. To the Sussexes, it is “The Cartel”; Buckingham Palace is reviewing the system. But if Prince Harry wants to choose who covers him, he would have to pay for events.

Bruised royal correspondents pine for a better relationship. Jocular Harry used to creep up on them and whisper: “Still writing bollocks then?” These days “he just glowers”, said one old hand.

The risks are plain. Prince Harry cannot resist delving into news coverage, even venturing into online comments sections — what friends call “the dark hole”. If his gambit backfires, the question will be whether he can climb out.

The writer is the Financial Times’ global media editor

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 05/10/2019 08:32

Other Royals have got away with being rude to members of the press so I don't think it's newsworthy, but it does highlight how bratty he can be. He isn't a teenager any more. His wife is on the brink of middle age and he isn't far behind. It's not on.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 05/10/2019 08:37

Interesting points in the FT, that the tabloids have such low circulation, and Harry sees social media as the way to disseminate information about them.
Perhaps the future is travelling with their own film crew and photographers and publishing their own media on line.
Would have much less impact on the planet than 300 press flying to Africa to report on basically the same story.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 05/10/2019 08:41

It hasn't come up yet, but in case anyone's interested, the Sussexes are apparently paying for the legal action themselves.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 05/10/2019 08:46

You've reminded me, Curly, of something I read about Princess Margaret being roundly criticised for taking up all sixteen seats in the first class section of a commercial plane for herself, a maid, a secretary and a detective. This selfish action was deplored as it deprived twelve other passengers of the opportunity to fly first class. Different times...

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 08:46

Well, yes he should. But it seems bizarre that so much is being made of this brief exchange. And your link to that interview with William is odd- why is it relevant?

It’s obviously considered representative of something.

I just randomly picked one of her sit down royal interviews in rebuttal of a PP’s notion that she was a passing paparazzo.

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 08:52

X post with the FT article. There you go then.

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 09:13

“I just randomly picked one of her sit down royal interviews in rebuttal of a PP’s notion that she was a passing paparazzo”
But you could just as easily picked one of her friendly and polite interviews with Harry.....

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 09:39

Yes, that would have been even better. The point being that he knows her.

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 09:42

But it wouldn’t have fuelled the good prince/bad prince narrative, would it?

TottieandMarchpane · 05/10/2019 09:46

Oh FGS Bert. I just searched “Rhiannon Sky Royal interview” and picked the first result.

People can search things themselves you know.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2019 09:46

Celebrities don’t always feel in the mood to talk to paparazzi ... I’m not sure why it’s a issue that Harry doesn’t want to either

Maybe it's worth remembering that Harry isn't exactly slaving away from 9 to 5 every day, and that the proportion of his time spent among the general public is actually pretty small overall. I see little point in his role anyway, but if he can't even manage that without snapping there seems no point at all

And yes, the idea that this latest "I'm gonna sue" might be to pre-empt something else crawling into view had occurred to me too

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 09:51

He was a bit short with her- but she had just questioned his raison d’etre just as he was about to zoom off somewhere!

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 09:52

And I agree that his raison d’etre should be questioned. Just not then and there.

Pitterpatterpettysteps · 05/10/2019 09:53

But it wouldn’t have fuelled the good prince/bad prince narrative, would it?

I think Harry is doing a pretty good job of fuelling that narrative himself...

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 09:55

If William is “good Prince” then the bar is pretty low!

Pitterpatterpettysteps · 05/10/2019 10:01

If William is “good Prince” then the bar is pretty low!

Interesting. Please elaborate on what you mean by this?

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